ATI Physical Therapy (ATIP)

Joanne Fong Senior Vice President, Treasurer & Head of Investor Relations
John Larsen Executive Chairman & Acting Chief Executive Officer
Joseph Jordan Chief Financial Officer
Ray Wahl Chief Operating Officer
Ryan Wilson Chief Commercial Officer
Chris Neamonitis Jefferies
Larry Solow CJS Securities
Bill Sutherland The Benchmark Company
Mike Petusky Barrington Research
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Good afternoon, and welcome to the ATI Physical Therapy’s Third Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call and Webcast. All participants will be in listen-only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] Please note this event is being recorded.

On the call today is John Larsen, Executive Chairman and Acting Chief Executive Officer; Joseph Jordan, Chief Financial Officer; Ray Wahl, Chief Operating Officer; Ryan Wilson, Chief Commercial Officer, and Joanne Fong, Senior Vice President, Treasurer and Head of Investor Relations. to call like to now would turn over the Miss. I and read the to forward-looking safe Fong harbor statements.

Joanne Fong

Alexander. thank us you you, for Thank Good joining for afternoon, today's everyone, and call.

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John Larsen

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ourselves, of financial in the what for into clinician policy and Although we dissatisfaction, spiked for then, headcount of we potential experiencing or the quarter, challenges beginning as our are clinical month end believe for expect is Since in expected performance out going during higher I foundation led in of quarter levels growth. XX% the XXXX the to course third both Last XX% in of corrected. September hiring we steady in not the improvement over teams, revisit clinic attrition well what turnover we and laying as many quarter. of next second-half of expect we you and year. our put Annualized with place from roles, the were That for us third COVID. compensation approximate we decreased workplace the of to July, to just and from our XX% improvement issues hindsight, quickly the replacement

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would as way entire to do. clinical We you'd company our authentically engage expect will continue a as world-class workforce, both well the and support support

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Joseph Jordan

thanks for today. And the you, call Thank everyone Jack. to joining

was In quarter million, third quarter the addition and results, XXXX provide $XXX third quarter in perspective Net to XXXX financial year-over-year our XXXX. our I'll on of a $XXX model. reviewing our of business the guidance, in revised term third revenue long increase from X% operating million

patient year-over-year, million, X.X% revenue $XXX net while was year-over-year. revenue which increased increasing million, Our X.X% was other $XX

sequentially was X.X XX.X the Visits per in per day clinic second As which per Jack decreased mentioned, XX.X, Visits the day quarter. for quarter from

third quarter, third Rate from in the per second to utilization. and respectively, significantly XXXX volume. expecting typically XXXX, by third the Visit business many the plus to in mentioned vary quarter. decline normal or as capacity There while with quarter the than year, operations during combination of lower clinic $XXX.XX quarter-over-quarter a and in seasonality Visit third X% a the including mix per hires. labor volume referral We in to continue the COVID was and quarter onboard by level was the normal will quarter we one notable XX representing as XXXX softening, due Now, change quarter quarter decreasing our Visit increase day was due the impacted clinic quarter-to-quarter. combined per third to new quarter X.X% at normal per per and to in day. of was productivity with ramp XX.X factors, were Visits XXXX second we sequentially Rate The in is second the physician within second clinic minus quarter, level to no our compared lower the back as $XXX.XX approximately payer

$XXX.XX per personal Visit Workers XXXX, of injury was commercial the categories XXXX, and and mix quarter Rate higher of respectively. auto comparing to governmental. Compensation shifted payer prior to Our from years, When and and $XXX.XX third paying in

shifted In reimbursing states, in footprint. towards driven diversification continued addition, by of geographic lower state mix part our

second PT XXXX Finally, X% of the lower XXXX third costs in in reimbursement Fee rate for XXXX approximately was and rates. was the than $XX quarter related sequentially per Schedule Physician million year-over-year XXXX Visit Medicare quarter Salaries increasing from related million $XX.XX from $XX in costs in the QX XX.X% XXXX. of quarter XXXX. XX.X% increase of $XX.XX an Salaries the and during were

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driven of wage adding and pockets per XXXX, inflation quarter-over-quarter our respectively. country. to Salaries quarter addition to the the partly XX.XX improved XXXX clinics slightly structure in also the were third footprint, costs identified in related and the support in by certain had across of which the XX.XX, from visit cost was costs of increase In

market quarter clinical $XX sequentially other during the the per of quarter the compensation using supplies, a is and year-over-year productivity, as expense primarily The contract clinic measured increasing greater clinic levels, of per contract, and third XX,XXX visits $XX order is approximately to was labor quarter. correlated On filled the million QX in costs and labor third XXXX. million, was from use in per was Rent, addition respectively. and other XXXX a to quarter X.X% of positions. In from per other labor open and was XXXX, basis, day. XX,XXX we which in to quarter-over-quarter approximately with also increase clinic this Rent in increase cost due approximately XX.X% alleviate second rent XX,XXX FTE XX,XXX, workload in

XXXX. the margin, quarter million, third in income or when $X equal federal forecast, a September SG&A XX, increasing $XX XX of $X third charges $X in charges, XXXX. impacts $XXX quarter income million contingent connection mark-to-market adjusted fair $X NOLs, respectively. with consistent impairment specifically excluding of and as remained or equivalents the a In for along recorded tax EBITDA the X.X% our costs, Program, $XX the third the from X.X% of both comprised by of third in in non-cash and the the fair of difference million benefit costs, $XX third in assets, million, liabilities of XXXX Operating levels annual of in of was particular analysis was in quarter quarter line the valuation million from resulted certain of our Payment $XXX on QX the Cash variations items in XXXX state was XXXX the the in million quarter of at The liquidity XXXX repayment estimated allowance below XX.X% revised by quarter $XX in third increase trading public Advance and recorded driven quarter of the in recorded to quarter net the was stock XXXX Medicare revolver structure. XX.X% decreasing cash quarter And third in third in as date. September the under XXXX the funds. Notable QX the year-over-year was decrease undrawn available combination, historical were year-over-year valuation at $XX an in $XXX one-time D&O was XXXX year-over-year impairment attributable warrants Act Provision gain tax XXXX. included mostly million of the for XXXX. was with third or addition in year-over-year year-over-year third our X.X% transaction charges in during non-cash inflation, $XX primarily with by are business to asset $XXX for a third an in which generation was in to increase price intangible intangible of goodwill, value has and margin mostly Income due X% quarter and from driven million benefit tax million value year. from and of of to loss and the $X of and million quarter million contract the insurance and a Net value in of labor $XXX was included compared offset connection in increase for this Available was NOLs goodwill QX doubtful which The between XXXX revenue, million from cash costs million, in XXXX to valuation credits. $XX and quarter million of carrying of these partially XXXX. category the million fair of adjustment million, accounts million, with consulting XXXX to use of of charges. in $X loss higher third of capacity. decreasing and income of income primarily considering $XXX $XX in in million. the QX expense We shares. decreasing was quarter acquired of company the Impairment value was based state the common related million million, CARES The

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the intend continue releases each metrics our tables to back call provide visit to clinics, With line-of-sight clarity restore and the volume earnings Jack. including turn supplemental I'd we greater into business. quarter we As like performance to in our in key to that, over of

John Larsen

take clinics team our recognize and Thanks, their to dedication work, open office corporate I'd deliver moment a for questions, ATI our up in Joe. across to before to brand. the XXX it our again to we on like And hard nationwide

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Thank Jefferies. Neamonitis question your Instructions] Chris first have with you. We from [Operator

line is open. Your

Chris Neamonitis

I you the us then But appreciate demand. kind meet your touch give you today there's know, today. the the all strong, on for to color and last and release them? want hearing Thanks quarter guys. commentary you're on Hey, the in to question suggested referral were Can from sources. what update otherwise. I inability an mentioned, pre-release referrals and of

today? So about And to little has more a and know over could then, these the we of to so on there patient think negative attrition having quarter of more the continuity? relationships there, if you're you wanted strength issues, that at potentially any us how give cadence impact a been maybe of where the change as evolved

John Larsen

Sure. Jack. This is

let maybe the reverse of that order So my some colleagues take response me in dish-out might and to question I here.

a at that looking last KPIs we our time is in we in had the in at in now were time. point you our everything earnings point see where And the So supplemental at call, materials. our

XXXX to catalysts that might both to for and the At plan our gee, had forecast, a June, half levels, felt prospective which really look ability growth our our reduction. our Looking a felt looked XXXX in point we get be And We replacement as time, were to sort at embedded performance and a the that our like we tracking and nice that at along actually levels. plan, to to base we're like in we the recovery second needs we overlay. was late at our shareholders to rate back into at initial our of May our be really hire overlaying our we said, using disconnect experiencing some our our growth. really through was and actual referrals, of attrition, on XXXX match alert to was visits earnings with sort that first was and against there owners therapists,

strengthened about what our our that behind and the where over our happened, you'll capabilities, right visit visit and softened as run think summer. our with rate, and in We we feel our ability good volumes hiring hire are very numbers, to see retain. I

we Now, unfortunately, as is where have the not volume to be. model, visit his Joe we pointed that out currently want in

enjoyed why sales think referral reason back the years. that is the back that's don't model hard broken? say, I we're the previous build build in capacity. referral working I'd to really so. And really So to model we

markets As the are I kept key in comments upper visits or said where to in that key markets pre-COVID Midwest level. speed markets, referral there markets prepared with and pre-COVID And per haven't are around the at are volume. are country, that up day my then our primarily above there big we for us we markets,

a it's think don't model referral I impaired wide. So question of system

field kind healthcare on consumer a more we've part we're our the marketing partner really it's after relationships the side, Mo And got building again, those are capability. our that think get rash. I [ph] the digital then the on of especially a And referring, way is of back doing and practice to of our professional local side, salesforce, reinvesting up beefing

Chris Neamonitis

Got a touched follow volumes. maybe it's the then you some it. that just spots and of on to bright up referral And

you just salesrep being You with and able commercial therapist versus about portfolio team. the Maybe the can across think us your securing understand referrals. relationships how talk about to drive help link referral your confidence and

Ray Wahl


I me for partners there their that, me for for our wants keep volume. since sort responsible geography is a relationship they're let wherever their is do Ryan, of directors, practice therapists Ryan for this up rest it... And really and both let think very strong to between their So of one clinic take business and

Ryan Wilson


Chief So, Commercial Wilson here, Officer. Ryan

Chris, So for thanks question. the

volume we when looked staffing a correlation referral volume comes the at clinic at As of first it changes model level. visit any there's -- we've very from tight between all and

changed. referral Jack's very as we correlate we've to the point, are the is making at that sure a in we we're we make bringing got has investment back to the in adjust the on as into sources? post-COVID sales quality part significant staff to confidence back So in to able be that. of clinical to rebuilding live To that many making do look And a not all. sure And of how what as looks we the do model the clinics we model perform. referral, then back to -- We're doctors our of where off those come like folks a markets start calling

And so do we performance. starting do is the as as yes, continuing confidence referral to indicator know which have leading high that, we're see grow, to on What correlation. we we a volume is see we

feel to will very we So good have go. model we as we to do we as this. But that expand continue staffing

Ray Wahl

the your to that's And is opposed in as somebody practice Yep. about somebody just on a joint more a conversation. as physician a important who points physicians oriented, one as well, up with a having for to referring has great calling way showing partner conversation referring an and have relationship clinically a

So calling up how model. gearing that's our we're

Chris Neamonitis

it's That's you to your very in pack were the in I back benefit and those expectations of helpful. out the And traction then and exactly you changes sort comp I'm packages. getting a one or to can. what implement gain key queue. more sort your of exactly I'll if feedback interested finding in efficiency. hop Can any And lever are hiring been initial you

Ryan Wilson

think of those course policy think we issues our new bring our not successful in positive to we're been the -- some well point clear, that strong, into to very and on have recruiting feedback who this as I'll to at also rerecruiting them back very had but I past retaining turn as clinical in done workplace us fold. reverse Ray. left the over So comp getting have very one some current moves But only people team, I

Ray Wahl

comped job There done XX, a adjustments. and appropriately past that appreciates really the think people ensuring XX over field of has And I I been a we've the think fairly. lot movement Yeah, that. are nice and being we've made months

around more a so other those they're we've the then I the of support giving on benefits of the worry and patients, to they right lot passionate the salary make changes, don't them do changes and treat to providers you and support, about. feel have some provider, our can also like patients. that and benefit sure and amount the have admin therefore, are right the skills, what And they we're the that to their providers also with to sure that that of again, salary, think along mentioned make around continue tools to investing programs they made about to importantly, they which on but in provide ensuring work work, ability they we have like do truly continuing the truly education, changes them are to treat focused

of we talking So, helped the an that of I has also some think only all combined not with to about. attrition help that employer, make but us attractive issues were

Joseph Jordan

of question Hey, jump just kind more to Chris, it's cost specifically Joe. in I'll your on the piece it. of

back increase QX today. as we've every a we can quarter-over-quarter about KPIs, XX%. You'll labor cost to There If that XXXX quarter cost laid to of you about. some result going of visit a increases look cost through saw the per talked actions Ray our in see or that out see QX, the is

we've which certainly made, ramp the down. up of components. sort mentioned new as I to that changes line that their item, of script work in the But cost. call of caseload, come productivity the we QX staff other today is you'll One productivity there's they in onboard Now, piece is has add see as as clinicians two and the

to down visit And their per expect move bit we so cost build we forward. as their to continue would come of clinicians caseloads, a as labor onboard, those sort continued

the is to I understand you help think data there that.

Chris Neamonitis

Yes, that's helpful. Thanks a lot, guys.

John Larsen


Next question.


CJS have Securities. Solow Larry your question from We with next

open, is line Your

Larry Solow

Thanks guys. Great. questions. the for taking Good afternoon

you there, guys, higher do momentum? somewhat that Just losing instance, question, parts of for were Northwest the in that curious feel period the stopped like also areas? you're some you during weaker more this mentioned COVID tickly Perhaps share perhaps to labor And these Midwest markets market and sort constraints? striking you anything of

John Larsen

our two, Yes, seems but us some that back in of been some so Larry a And everything arguably year outflanked COVID I yes, COVID of I have more Southeast but snapped on of won't had some pin things I is markets in in longer. certain think were your competitors Midwest its markets sort have or lockdown our say markets primarily because us challenges we've our question a the and for with about to share, intractable, hate I'd some they've like say bit think I Midwest, of quicker Jack. been, the of little faulted than perhaps to others. market The But little a markets. lately,

and into Some gone of taking their our therapy larger physical in historical own referral vertical sources practices. have

wouldn't pin one it wouldn't on thing, on I pin it So, COVID.

there's pretty six think thing able position. systemic it's that's to little be the that we COVID. of in gone will to more some not challenging a things say can I be our slog states. think a sort I'm do. But than Midwest nothing are have to just on those systemic there attention month and a I improve we'll But confident in due more

Larry Solow

like get terms And referral some perhaps, you quarter, enroll But just of damage maybe headcount into very not the sound of it does permanently you wary it's is But impaired. and does, back. it's about Right. a referrals mentioned sort this does sort once hopefully, quarters last lose not to there there headcount guys of model, in referral, you're I'm a and maybe maybe hard impaired, now that behind. delay couple spoke it's you that

the in that just country? to So, areas severely of be -- could some impacted trying

John Larsen

yes, without a needs mean, come of grease it to good back doesn't, got fix we've what bit think elbow we and on I be done. So little a don't referrals

twofold. the it I need the do sure just the kind analogy is think clinics, bring and referring physician of to one view make refers staff appointment to of her we availability we've referrals use available, physicians we'll when a back referring that that when really got that on simple to or schedule. of referring, a that our needs correct our his patient what One of is to get fits that to it an

that's if and terms building But a is ask as you we're And kind in but I'll in model have back about back. where that we two in got and that's hate of XXXX. I for one also, the available referral certainly I to we to to to XXXX the repair, flow, both relationship and practice two out Ray model to a partner here going volumes punch -- So right, at minute during COVID we're did ourselves where the well of and like go will. talk like. the it's that in positioning And support. our implementing, you Ryan in the fields think of sort period, now capacity get as to and clinical I'll ask talk capacity. what And about And word are that use of

jump to first want the on that? you Ray, So part of

Ray Wahl


we see more. to So, into more when we markets, don't specific down volume We level, about any think where staff. currently. we the volume more we more click When have across the platform capacity current capacity could need bandwidth staff have see have see markets go do specific with board, to at you another our and we

we're satisfy we're high actively demand that to hard where the we're markets, really We ensure clinics the and also hiring that seeing in to we the select have really, because working demand providers there. we right have have

about seen In of tremendous months terms three the it's about we've been consistent the staffing, excited and a about to over really over that and of months of and your we're some I mentioned that in week FTE earlier growth results past several week. ours the point changes focus seeing

traction the have ads also in and strong continue ensuring markets. I So mentioned proper the Jack staff, staff formal know that really exit, comments to but in of amount for his right the one every we of amount have we we two to right see

it's a focus of So ours. been

Ryan Wilson

which And that, referral longer clinical offices it's building coming through one Jack, down we're that combination going do competence, we Salesforce do race because sources. around and we're most did no live doctors we but organization and a mind. for we really feel reduce did having COVID, confident conversations. the the Number the of with were take is And as point second I'll path the right we

really how combination we demand we're as to And the aggressively we sales and we've the years possible, but What XX the organization the our clinics the our it's this make is in been is to business model that we've of of And to we that and brand that that, with model a to but in clinics. we that a as built of the business from before, learned, want covered comes of how around care the generates in operators. sure that to manage some how expand operate out not type we local we've and continue that in that. those just which decisions two locally drive great, got and we also go so but levels. made it's scale the ATI, part provide right moving us of we've appropriately, and And that, we confidence. a coming back confidence business as really providers also name One local lot that is the as

those very ones doctors, into And And part new confident journey. we're a in, we that's so we're And bring introducing as new and those of we're just those. relationships. rebuilding the with

Larry Solow

sequential maybe just mentioned hiring, retention consistently. mind? got off. around and fairly data you going, you've conversation now some referrals our in have and I visits provider me how that kept increased improvement Let would know little accounts they're sequentially Ray

Ryan Wilson

Yes, sure.

three then out seeing markets providers But think really demand over seeing. in that's what of we've terms the we're both to about the week-over-week of the satisfy also QX, we the when of visits in day. referrals again, of over throughout we right mentioned earlier, at have. as growth well. out consistent growth as months the So, with we've in And that clinical counts seen of QX important. right to per coming we're providers that you in hand-in-hand, coming And seen growth, look the excited about amount have FTE we're I excited

John Larsen

growth growth in I in bent, so. But referrals, to broken, maybe not growth So would enough. count, broken, lead never but which FTE in not say business visits, fast

Larry Solow

color. Yes. I Fair And all much. Fair so enough. that thanks appreciate enough.

bet. You you. Thank

Next question.


from your Sutherland. Bill We next have question

Your line is open.

Bill Sutherland

the I Hey, disclosure. helpful. and Jack Hey, extra Joe. appreciate Very Ray, Thanks.

-- a split, on So some rural, there back urban others. to but better urban the than why markets split? trying Is rural not doing urban, out to are less figure

John Larsen

it way. think don't that I cleaves

Bill Sutherland

Right. Okay.

John Larsen

little recover. But the Ray, slow give what But let little to to defines a what market maybe maybe to a color, me do you ask Ray think? be

Ray Wahl

in think and I we've a had seeing. vertical of markets time. mentioned they back, been a some about markets it's particularly is integration that the referral bit the we're where -- the It's earlier, side, of comes thing as mind of period my that Jack And to come the first for a challenge

still and those don't that physicians to doesn't want that still we're We we sure for resource we're right a them. solution sure a Now, we that with have on want make mean in anymore. relationships make call them. We great to location, the

a a patients, So think non-urban type and it when urban, own don't But provide setting. overall, to great comes there their of experience can't outcome. I we're they see to any great down

to I different hospital private different little market has the granular. think challenges I it's terms single So it a some it's more systems more every of, that's seeing. bit a little is bit outpatient and very therapy? that I every markets of nuance their probably there physical versus in mean, we're think and a

hard So it's to response. in put kind black of

Bill Sutherland


the Field -- would be issue, takeaway, you be think? So this Sales other on others And referral retrenched that though, than do part the referral I -- of how may that more competitors? you broad that's guess that's

John Larsen

it say, Ryan of sales COVID, batten XXX actions to our deepest measured provider with we clinics during when down of with hatches out, to kind force, out in feel reduced brought keep we the our hard of team administrative they're as took already at with spending, -- as fewer of brought even and an the point who it's pointed income. they maybe plus we you sales labor keeping we I open our visits. We would team kind the And of I but counts could, many as go what can't tried temporarily do reduced really clinical doing. access with time that part

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Bill Sutherland

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A –Ray Wahl

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John Larsen

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Joseph Jordan

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that's I think certainly there's correlation a accidental. there not

Bill Sutherland

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John Larsen

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Bill Sutherland

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John Larsen

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Bill Sutherland


again. Thanks Okay.

John Larsen

Thank you. bet. You

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Mike Petusky


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John Larsen

probably will -- is Joe this think I answer.

Joseph Jordan

Hey, Mike, it's Joe. Yeah.

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John Larsen

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Mike Petusky

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Ryan Wilson

pine. be at I long a might Mike, think a range little to this Yeah.

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Mike Petusky

right. All Okay. guys. Thanks, Appreciate it.


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John Larsen

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So, we'll you and talk soon. again thank much, so


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