Hippo (HIPO)

Cliff Gallant Vice President of Investor Relations
Assaf Wand Chief Executive Officer
Richard McCathron President
Stewart Ellis Chief Financial Officer
Matthew Carletti JMP Securities
Yaron Kinar Jefferies
Michael Phillips Morgan Stanley
Alex Scott Goldman Sachs
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Hello and welcome to today’s Hippo’s First Quarter 2022 Earnings Call. My name is Bailey and I will be your moderator for today’s call. All lines will be muted during the presentation portion of the call with an opportunity for questions and answers at the end. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to pass the conference over to Cliff Gallant, Investor Relations. Cliff, please go ahead.

Cliff Gallant

operator. you, Thank and earnings everybody for Hippo’s joining Good call. thank quarter conference first morning you Earlier issued at morning, results, this Hippo which first announcing is quarter its also available investors.hippo.com. a shareholder letter Hippo’s Leading today’s Rick and Financial Chief Executive Assaf Stewart Wand; McCathron; Ellis. Chief Officer, discussion President, Officer, be will

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Assaf Wand

Thank you, Cliff.

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Richard McCathron

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Stewart Ellis

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for Our last guidance for we continue XXXX To in the expect of to for ratio track remains XXX years. in full-year and now million XXX% range of in to I range quarter’s when further results. million, to his it gross from you. million, TGP remarks. XXX XXX million on the XXXX, to materials reported revenue unchanged below And we for the will improvement XXX Assaf turn back and loss Thank closing over future summarize,

Assaf Wand

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[Operator comes Matt please Instructions] Matt Securities. JMP ahead. you. from Carletti today question Thank go Our first from

Your line is now open.

Matthew Carletti

thanks. Okay, morning. Good

bit with get on and perspective reinsured. have you shareholder - that little I a wanted that. hoping as look in building could other to commentary kind of way just the flood that products. paper, was of I about obviously at the the you question at earthquake partnered kind First of Spinnaker ask versus the some build letter heavily your on

why you somebody elected build product Just with and versus Hippo kind partner else? thought that a process to of

Richard McCathron

is This Rick. Yes Matt, how doing. you are

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So we for also utilize product, some a a us. sell customer, and manager those of the win-win sort channels to our for distribution for creating products, of

Matthew Carletti

a quarter, very premiums and you and questions with And then some us on? helpful. sequentially cadence just bit Really great. it Alright, restored. net there year-over-year. the growth Can of earned a flat what little number and in the going kind is help good get of were

Stewart Ellis

Matt happy take Hi to is this Stewart. that. I’m

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Matthew Carletti

answers. Okay great. Very helpful. Thank you for the


Yaron The Please Kinar today question from go comes next you. Thank from ahead. Jefferies.

line now open. Your is

Yaron Kinar

Thank and morning. good you

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Richard McCathron

Yes. it Yaron is Hey Rick.

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and So that XX-months entire XX-months. between ranges process

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Yaron Kinar

underlying ratio loss be you clear to loss on Right? here, as expect the improvement continued the well ratio. total Just as

Richard McCathron

correct. Yes,

Yaron Kinar

loss have gave basis the net Okay. the ratio. development here? numbers Perfect those Do of and impact and on you spelled then you - you catastrophes prior out gross on

Stewart Ellis

basis in in and On XXXX have release didn’t release reserve reserve Yaron Yes. was is the our net million that I think we X.X net Stewart. XXXX. a it

Yaron Kinar

(Ph), And Okay. net for code on the a on a Cat [Cat] basis?

Stewart Ellis

so. It it on X.X roughly. X.X is was a And XXX,XXX, PTF million, basis, ex-PTF is

Yaron Kinar

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Stewart Ellis

great Yes. It question a Yaron. is

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Yaron Kinar

and very Yes color. much so Yes. appreciate I that

Stewart Ellis

Alright, thanks.


you. Thank

go Phillips Next ahead. question please today comes Michael Stanley. from Michael from Morgan

Your line now is open.

Michael Phillips

everybody. morning Good thanks. Okay,

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find appreciated. So will just you be in color there more can

Richard McCathron

Really is question. it Rick. Yes, hey Michael, good

match explaining this exposure. were is prices the segmented enough way we rate better think weren’t historically, a to with of that I charging

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were want. getting that disproportionately versus we poor we clients better So the clients

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Michael Phillips

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Stewart Ellis

that Michael, the a had dropped a please? we - bit. Can little Yes. phone repeat you

Michael Phillips

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Richard McCathron

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little you go, numbers there Stuart, anything? want do So a the you add look Michael. to wonky. sometimes Alright,

Michael Phillips

you. thank No Okay.

for Just me. one more

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Richard McCathron

Michael. ways. two Yes. going to different I’m this tackle question Also a great

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Michael Phillips

that, quarter. Congrats it sense. makes on the for Thanks Okay.

Richard McCathron

Michael. Thanks


from please Thank Alex you. ahead. Sachs. today comes go from Scott Alex, The Goldman question next

open. now is line Your

Alex Scott

Hey good morning.

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Assaf Wand

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Alex Scott


Richard McCathron

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Alex Scott

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Richard McCathron

also a great question. Yes,

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Alex Scott

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Assaf Wand

which what We goals on. And will the - what what on see it the these on basically are it is well we do. the and what doing. live we this keep way, and keep we stock are we calls, that We do say we company, is is we what actually to is, In future. what and we can what believe reducing are valuable very is managing are we and the we Assaf. this And not and on company, we have we like on end. that we simple going Alex market. the is it Basically phone on are is an life in our going it should more company control think basically said focused grade. short, the all conviction a we to in are very we market, Hi we the And building growth, we ratio, this reiterate than the optimistic improving we keep be don’t of loss ever focused a ongoing we we and do on

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Alex Scott

Thank you. Okay.


you. is [Operator today from Kinar question next Thank Jefferies. Instructions] Please go from Yaron follow-up ahead. The a

open. Your line is now

Yaron Kinar

year-over-year. actions given model have have the would a based amount to Have XXXX current the on the you. you from and I’m curious, loss ratio? where you REIT tried of underwriting in come XQ kind portfolio taken thank Hey, of

Richard McCathron

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Stewart Ellis


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Richard McCathron

very, been Yaron. to the to loss that actions been would we look hard we say, taking sufficed ratio differently. Hey very the hadn’t take I’m working if have

Yaron Kinar

No doubt.

Okay. if could. And follow-up second, I then

the of So the two about how homebuilder give being of you the company maybe the remain the the what year rest you portion compares after maybe Can with performers best of customers one, with are those sense of customers year? your guess, talked after that us in I highest a book. quality, or the

Stewart Ellis

Hippo, has the high is this levels Yaron with channel. don’t we and have retention particular in the I I that of customer think the homeowner book Stewart. see in then general, think, we are not do out like given satisfaction, by the like you enduring I space building Hi we you value. can - in feel in is This broken numbers. But the and think can

to of similar continuing churn channels. premium every number all is year. to pretty last people about to We good out large to feel year, not a was replace are we still it marketing of Like but our Our the our across expense that having grow. is retention book really

our ability excited business. are that continue And in so about piece invest to the of to we

Richard McCathron

probably a Yes. home about what strategy, have particular we age. retention because to similar question Yaron ages, homes we thinking is on the rating thing, one the have of create to ratio of and And suffice add say happens as age, a methodology those to a as type more that at I similar at both would start home loss that it pricing standard business? the this to - a would people would

that with. that that been they not in have have I strategy underwriting. space we something those others and this a very age, to job done great as support retention a So both And homes is develop think have strong

Yaron Kinar

question. Thanks and much for thanks Thanks very well. preempting as next

Richard McCathron

Thanks Yaron.


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So I over Assaf remarks. to Wand would like for to pass conference the closing

Assaf Wand

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