SXT Sensient Technologies

Steve Rolfs Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Paul Manning Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer
Brett Hundley Seaport Global
Mitra Ramgopal Sidoti
Heidi Vesterinen Exane BNP Paribas
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Good morning, and welcome to the Sensient Technologies Corporation 2019 Fourth Quarter and Year End Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note, this event is being recorded.

I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Steve Rolfs. Please go ahead, sir.

Steve Rolfs

morning. Good Senior Chief Rolfs, Sensient Officer President Corporation. Technologies Vice Steve Financial and of I'm to of results. welcome conference like would I all discuss fourth call you XXXX quarter financial to Sensient's to

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Paul Manning

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provide Steve you the now fourth with details quarter additional results. will on

Steve Rolfs

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Thank you for this time morning. your

for We will call now the questions. open


first [Operator ahead. Hundley Global. Please you. Instructions] with go will Brett Seaport from Thank question The come

Brett Hundley

morning guys. good and you thank Hey,

Paul Manning

Good morning, Brett.

Steve Rolfs

Good morning, Brett.

Brett Hundley

so, or changed booking hurdles way guys EBIT calculating million these equity performance or Steve $X XXXX? I'm guidance full about headwind XXXX? to Paul, into growth. your so And X% you are the in that's for heading if performance any were a amended in

Steve Rolfs

mid-single-digit just be there on is the amount. So the amount. is there If full we first growth could there range, range, where And which talked you or it question is off, would the flexes. But the within repeat the that EBITDA Obviously, the would – our rate not within less, mitigate buffer amended? at about, then full the results. your

Brett Hundley


heading change based could how performance at XXXX, – mentioned EBITDA, a performance just that EBITDA. was I certain least of out comp to into think but you tied how now, two had is And for on did it I years of So lot couple those that if wondering which years be metrics? paid thought been I has I changed a ago. you wrong,

Steve Rolfs

what structure might So is incentivized similar very heading few years into year. the a What it was be thinking you XXXX, EPS. is of ago, last we on were to

changes instance, have the could an for effect. So rate in tax

incentivized not on are EPS going forward. We

capital. invested year, But significant its revenue, return I no would changes, say. cash from So flow then on EBITDA, and it's last

Paul Manning

trophy Brett, around no of kind. So of equity of performance-based is XXX% the are this, part based. And There has awards do performance any our with right? all it, metrics to participation

we what payout. there don't equity essentially like deliver, XXXX, in is when So happened no

dramatic a fully to have, you interests. now. though, is experiencing we're So what be But like what more XXX% can shareholder it swing, certainly aligned

a So we then headwind, nature is expect underperforming no would in a a perform can XXXX. but And we you large have performance-based, given to the had XXXX, represent which non-cash less. headwind, a this XXX% swing a swing,

have are get pay financial a and good as our into philosophy you for very essentially XXXX, significantly have it these then But that You the this is, nature moderated. we in that performance here. in and dynamic XXXX, creates fact, around year

Brett Hundley

you obviously, To number activity? headlines comments. recognized get haven't notable during cost of but those for divestitures, extent update can the just can the seen Thanks I yet. quarter, the on the on comment Okay. an divestiture we that guys, guys the any You

in talk modeling given it? So potential I just at wanted that full interest to I'm a timing about businesses are talking how coming about least we out of that's or these for lot XXXX,

Paul Manning

each of three have So interested businesses. certainly for I buyers think we'd the this:

I think actively with that we're those individuals. engaged

non-disclosure. So with a intention makes these in I capital much it's businesses. market, details discussions cases scale our each think buyers that to it you have the sense can't very certainly greater in as are these necessarily would by I so them. certainly The governed footprint good effectively I get But tell into sell those and

to we're price to them. with for do going we're to And do that's consistent get But philosophy. that a time going going them frame on We're that right. a fair

certainly, like we not So can them as them. do as sell going sell stupid. reasonably But to soon we're we'd anything to

to for so for would right. a we them get fair have we to possible. want very right these have our to done a to as be I that get soon things our shareholders. We and make outcome But buyer that shareholders the And sure sure, we done want end, optimistic outcome fair as

Brett Hundley


Paul Manning

that you at effect Yes, we as and publicly, done. with on I interest that we this front. three, get – closing, I the that tell expect But mean, can this certainly, that and a of yes, we there is, consistent signing would make would I in as stage, we expectations

Brett Hundley

beyond, missed would in these or as summer XXXX? I'm this prepared remarks, where reported and this I And during if ops be your into if but Okay. discontinued this is situation a Steve, maybe stretches sorry

Steve Rolfs

operations, for not will with in classification provide we the accounting meet discontinued but of and requirements Actually, So they they're not operations. without them. discontinued adjusted numbers the do

Brett Hundley

jump the couple Got queue. it. have I'll a but in And back I more,

other capital I to one allocation. wanted The about just on ask was you

You CapEx work guys your but touched it to of is on a starting prepared remarks, times in down. couple

it. just take about continued you You've on aggressive share differently thinking bottom here given we more this challenges, juncture? some XXXX early appreciate raised Or your at top line, already. repo the approach ahead? dividend And to guys least the see you might and combinations on I at are strategic a in

Paul Manning


purest had a earns of shrinking good throughout to but think I historically bit the very is journey and of $XX call also you approach on that share I prioritization taking to internally I'll consistent So little form but as investment like is of Number typically The the committed to I'm we a lot we've strategic here, think on it's we're CapEx restructuring more much alternatives. we've returns that that our take the one, with sorry, – capital businesses. philosophy to for of That of our to $XX allocation highest it's certainly investing it. the company, to in done, this. capital a other philosophy – the footprint, million the a million outcome CapEx

is think, I $XX million, So to $XX been that previously, even was $XXX in think of that and that had some you work was years, compare good course $XX representative done million of, the million in the I we some $XX restructuring. million million where

to for priority priority a many time for us. dividend that be will the us. for shareholders. of will is our a So to level I a source continue that sustainable That and of a and value for is being, be good continue think The

we debt. we And free XXXX, is doing historical and you on our back a precedent very to. to in of a as of lot that spend committed have that We then cash continue flow paying one be that, saw

good up prudent we million a to thing this debt, approximately to and pretty pay certain M&A paid down us either of to want for to We thought down which for do, to debt-to-EBITDA to us we to be continue suggest, like us, We enabling do. well debt. that At $XX times. seems That or X.X as the buybacks was times activity. X you work somewhere in point,

three moving opportunity, an there would as M&A parts, And we right? it's debt? – pay is at XXXX, look so Buyback, are we those more the or

there see something would And a But opposed take in our February I that buying we focus it think opportunity, to and we're M&A some obvious to as debt. now, we down is XX, be should opportunities, event always be an those for right rather looking along more lines. doing the not creates unusual here on stock

and I thinking give be So got each answer more to precise terms very, of you rails you flexible kind very on pieces. change won't a of we of in those because guide want the do but our there, things

Brett Hundley

Paul. Thanks, great. That’s

Paul Manning

Okay. Thanks, Brett.


next comes The Sidoti. Please ahead. Ramgopal question from with Mitra go

Mitra Ramgopal

for Thanks taking questions. the morning. Good Yes.

it's too mentioned first start Just know have of want the just that. think, had determine the to sort with the I impact, extent you obviously, you guidance. of to early could coronavirus, an and

So already the But impact in I'm guidance. that's not factored I'm just an having manufacturing Asia? operations it's wondering into in assuming initial if your of terms

Paul Manning

So business businesses China, in produce that In Group. specifically colors Color food it sell. this the where our Group most and is manufacture company, Color general, we we business our the in those in for in cosmetic

a standpoint manufacture Europe. items that Asian should part other very There is to manufacturing made in think another China substantially my sense, because country, little what can't from of that that sent would the impact to outside of In for manufacture in we are very of China there's of in that be destined the I Certainly, do is Americas but you to from or some tell China send small they China. do. a top I one off China we head isolated tends subsequently that is countries. that anything So we the

during Chinese right Year. impact Where coronavirus initially, we New are seeing is, the an now happened

So and Year, many in China throughout on going little very Asian countries. dropped, sales activity during Chinese New

now, be. we China. materials midst it's you that would Chinese the source fact in in right difficult what now right very, Year, that to of raw New impact see could essentially would the I financial very right So happened potential this economic from the the tell coronavirus and

safety. been, other or we've disruptions. point, has no producers. the around to be sent to words, food estimation, had producers food a In as that materials or would safety China not not not the virus. are other cosmetic in my product with concern would present raw In challenge significant tainted in significant food Europe made There words, this At the U.S.

problem, are see problem where don't is seeing customers. we material accessing raw the really we terms a but in of So

So a this people becomes – of cosmetic the of China region, this transaction our Singapore on becomes – the if who we region. – in for side in little the business a there throughout because if our travel like sales problem technical a business, bit travel technical may based we have people who throughout have may the

had the technical a we Korea. you very lot destined anecdote, him Korean find is he might here's customer which not and outside for Korea, would was because see coming from in Singapore the a interesting, who in Just other individual customer day, a of

it's are dynamics So these at play. types that of

China. still We in homes to their who confined are have salespeople

the movement of cosmetics. commercial little business the side very in there's on So

for the that so that – virus was comments, that out point be point, this hour. that to could be. really, the my be in prepared headwind. estimate and Information on is difficult impact And and really At could the would what it's coming headwind that this us what by have would

basis dynamic Countries out are on restricting access changes. this in as daily a and

any for next to this here from I right there, there our available is guidance What you predict tell several So that But the is is can't at it ball very that impact on goes an least, business, that. China. that indisputable, of is cosmetics I we're resolution me my Asia be can going where sort be in telling now. publicly months, or clear made seeing until is will crystal

different but Now the opinion think the and impact that's with you'll Asia business. for may a I it cosmetics in Group my feel others, us, biggest from get you perspective Color our

Mitra Ramgopal

Okay. if the actually, sense I a us that anything seems also? on in be guidance a you know while. a just give you for I there I just color on And if of can the know what into like – international should really factored was insight impact that. tariff for less had I XXXX. the and don't staying front the wondering for Yes. in you It appreciate was No, And headwind XXXX. the you

Steve Rolfs


on have now, And actually, – raw material looks control. as that good. we under of the right that that So we believe front, pretty

to So in not China get been going it for the were pretty successful had difficult moving that items to of regulatory you XXXX, We've that certain also tariffs that only some raw had those made happened earlier actions our outside materials. you at back impacted. China but sourcing

So of ex- issue stabilized, and impact about. – at impact uncertainty end this Paul the the day, appears have trade the that to the virus the talked tariff

Mitra Ramgopal


again, Okay. And I and XXXX, official, should, would now sort I if an year, that's in impact be that for I wondering plus had that, you that – this of know also just anything, Brexit was imagine? now a for you

Paul Manning


Brexit creates stability sort would think our much not of or any impacts that for as and implemented. clarity that market being in should greater around a clarity result customers. and of And up we in that, stability I year see our prior say the business yes, now and creates think I there's versus incremental, down, I Brexit,

Mitra Ramgopal

products on I'm was Flavors you there. know if the segment, of be biotech can to for And nice you're the new might could BioNutrients, bring maybe I of one that you? & additional potential a just that Okay. then opportunities Fragrances seeing traction be the to the any address And for you catalyst wondering market looking markets. you areas And if

Paul Manning

Yes. Sure.

modifying different in who kind of of modifying the based curious is a of the this about some for which cultures. mostly the may essentially applications, line case, is sources, of industry, be protein food we types on So portion our this BioNutrients, nature live of folks that the into sell on flavor those group for

things English in that, what for make nutrition, things we feeds see probiotics nature. example, this protein animal you'd of prebiotics, means is that So that or essentially, in bacteria,

so culture, the slowed fermentation, in certainly, live And markets probiotics XXXX.

I think that's well been publicized. pretty

of didn't new that like capacity went or say, from, X% those a markets. or growth a that in fermentation lot a X% to entrants A field, they X% for of Now into X% lot decline, area. go maybe They rate. into

very it's and driven we it very the a good efficacy about applications. improving so we think And technically of market. about like it's It's all very, market. What yield a these and types of is bacteria

applications-driven And wheelhouse service innovative-driven consistently then into and able of high a well products to so at and time very being deliver fits and that on quality. products, customer our

market. get of rather also good good. very very, be terms it's think the a into. expansive can the it it's continue slowed to but XXXX, in areas in quite down So I prospects you Sure, that And

of growth, a talk of fermented quite quite of and the but quite nutrition fragmented, a there's the still areas about its or least still supplier are are ingredients standpoint. probiotics areas moderating large large, at Sure, quite bit declining animal from

and So good expect here a year XXXX. in we very to a good would them still have market

Mitra Ramgopal

the as Okay. you're know more terms to formulations. that trying transition And how touched And how I'm on transitioning of natural I in along that from customers to Color seeing? on synthetic to just sense little the get or we are you Group, the a more far early

Paul Manning

third in just on Asia In that Pacific, eighth the and I in probably, It's about inning. of they where inning. don't finished the one. top know, we're Europe, in In – the ace we're the Americas the

a dog yet, So get they're nobody's hot right, quite about but, it. thinking gone to

through way broadly, a a even color say to So XX% the the or products we're right market solution, about of is to I of third colored on natural non-synthetic maybe which now more solution. contain about thing, this could the say XX%

a mandate we trend to which expect any Europe. jurisdictions be of do legislative of to to any is outside law, rather say, be this from We in It'll than continue Europe, continue will a consumer-driven government-mandated as a saw burn. long not sort

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Mitra Ramgopal

that and at color think DSOs end in your Steve, appreciate should just Okay. finally, quite Thanks forward? the I'm a on about year. I And we it. the wondering going that how know came the I bit for of

Steve Rolfs

out So point a the things couple of balance to on sheet.

moved as couple classification divest a sale. seeking So assets they've of for businesses from into standpoint, known that for to we're the accounting a an held

you on receivables, our lines, the of amount there's mentioned, you sale. for point What particularly in if at you if – is down the an other some think, line, the when inventory that inventory his I bringing onto comments, would Paul year. So held was reclassified dollars, as did normalize that, I inventory, of sheet a this the assets look however, of good balance job out, some in we

XX that days some think looking or And But adjust are items that, it's XX being did we on of inventory. out of we about a so at about difficult it's sheet, But improvement normalized I we inventory. make took balance for in because those if – the – reclassed. just out took you basis,

Mitra Ramgopal

taking the again questions. sounds Okay, Thanks good. for

Paul Manning

you. Thank

Steve Rolfs

Thanks, Sure. Mitra.


from will with Exane next question ahead. Please BNP Heidi Vesterinen Instructions] Paribas. [Operator The come go

Heidi Vesterinen

good Hi, morning.

Steve Rolfs

Heidi. Hi,

Heidi Vesterinen

you growth excluding year. us? sold? are up possible was with tell the the group you. it the You business-by-business? for So full first to go you Could Thank colors, said the That's X%, that question, businesses Perhaps the being for what even share is first was us rate I natural of think, question. that right, could you

Steve Rolfs


of to good year And to double will the single where those we past But talking cases, had job scale focus rationale other of bring be off, first we're most divesting, synergy XXXX, down on parts back business Paul have of strategic the was digits depending high did limited a the probably So Heidi, differentiation. We the there. for I if more just that $XXX quarter, divested, about to of – that that. It you on parts the this lack more think to million our businesses with revenue low businesses in digits. business. it look the

to quarter take our for had factored been down in instance, we if divested we were if the you was would have revenue flat So fourth businesses. consolidated X.X%, not these where

So have the X% it – overall impact a X% on between a revenue. and did negative

Paul Manning

of natural that the the And up businesses, the was I pairing so colors with rest then X%. mentioned

extracts X% we're for X% quarter, and was one. for fourth Our flavors and with the pleased year that up so the very

growth colors XX%. a flavors and very Our It's up a was engine pharmaceutical us. it's selling almost that we're where for extracts, business, natural strong business small but and

business at not only been year, about, this XXXX. Ingredients look you the the down that's months. all than factors point. really talked When up that kind cosmetics, really playing more moderating The the demand that cosmetics but be We the much of makeup about to X% for natural of was tariffs owing X over about was in up in XX SNI market business, percentage will these think last we've the out

the sort the the to of is So part XX%. down, ingredients one flavor of business, from that this that's the portfolio Steve highlights of other what of those The the more business. parts are said, down some than of was piggyback the some on

loss gives rely revenue of really, winning in forward. quality which part me the much Now about wins, that's I salespeople, put winning comes all the the technology, we our to of we businesses, kind highlights as where of not in that will in X.X%. grow technical came year service, of these them application ways extracts, good we're kind is out moderate of of ingredients. move you this think we down think support, flavors customer when more the in some going good to of really we the important that's quarter, flavors, some what of only But those to And finding flavor that together pot, that be we're in products on confidence but we're out

Heidi Vesterinen

you And impact quite Thank We onion optimistic you. then way? the SNI prices Indian that Does saw on next spiking. are any the in you that you're said business. question, so that

Paul Manning

– There's always – be these market products are products. should always considered

However, India domestic of has been a market. more traditionally

the material somewhat the was are at scale introduce product unprecedented. from did recall to costs that of – couple move up. onion into U.S. raw their a You they was years Nevertheless, ago,

U.S. and your that's India. the in publicized think about been and to in China, even point I certainly pretty well

us take think hit And lag get when factors and at is there of that bit when because you between QX times. so the a is cost price a of one little that kind you in I can

products not to think but for very I you based new see competitive would in on continue garlic, in to grow wins, so very, think revenue based category our position the onion that on only in And pricing be sure. us I And a there.

yes, say, you in But I say opportunities bodes general So there's as as that us. also could statement, a I well. some think, garlic would sure, well for

Heidi Vesterinen

line. that of will the what catch guess, meant? prices the because And up that segment will with terms in improve I profits, Is your that's top So inputs. in you

Paul Manning

yes. QX to QX,

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see we low necessarily into get So is levers which, to mid, Flavor the SNI, about line top the maybe SNI, should expect we you the of in but as Group. even to profit don't mid-single-digit know, XX% there all within growth

Heidi Vesterinen

Thank you. question. last then And the

there talked And quite this your seeing was emerge? think relatively question, regions actually, your earlier consolidated? I response these new it new was in entrants you new a remarks Is I about in you entrants in you. to in base trend Thank so are another – probiotics. as thought which customer

Paul Manning

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interest – strains of there fairly for So literally the may a live cultures probiotic developed bacterial general, in probiotics. in of can steady are given you group hundreds be in that and bacteria the products. But end in many see consumer these interest

it brands you is many the key is established market. And so really we in and that start-ups, little sure, vying of many kind for our bit business a market, today. our on for think the see positions are pay the focus really is and for market more to European areas U.S. I concept where sure, In that attention those that

Heidi Vesterinen

you. Thank


next a from with is Global. Seaport go question Brett The follow-up Hundley ahead. Please

Brett Hundley

two for Thank just ones. you quick I taking. had

on have You XXXX quick. good quick higher-level model, but a about on in the flavor margins guys of and thinking discussion to near-term detail lot I real wanted have the a given maybe us

what footprint over maybe can address just years, given the I it'd think commentary your exclude might that. for divestitures, for margins about Just years the of or next last two be as what's you over years we've five be to investors business? this across of type the possible that talk this possible OI helpful had and I reset And business five kind if flavors utilizations revisit

Paul Manning


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and clear ingredients high perhaps business. the in other service business, the levels certainly, flavor now so in features So are the SNI less

do expect, flavor should category. and and you gross we that, margins points in that experience higher higher Given price

fourth that for So those what revenue in high as you maybe have is that single-digit an particular market much been fragmented the listings encumbered core extract market. by to that's on We push field we're going estimation, is upward and swing to a the in and this mid quarter, more growth, is not and ingredients. continue flavors other, in factors saw competition and a of my than to limit that's nice extract think area And the even growth. flavor specialty

the that's operating So that very focus continues going to area. as to line. be very, to the profit profitable be continue on a said, well SNI margin business

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makes – prepared has that this what this is mentioned and been I've diluting the comments, effort, in these flavor what ingredients. Now

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Group? to getting in the where margin to profit operating get XX% at your So portfolio, the Well, certainly, real flavor the we you when about that is part crux can look of Flavor of achieve. we able question, still we can. a And certainly, are near or that to actually

quite ingredients, that's to of there. so moderate think getting be we going continue the us to these flavor effect And to as I helpful

on be revenue, will So up let's first, thing is profit follow. first

strong. year. So very we fixed any out to the of expect expect And we've very, that our costs, leverage then that – later from would because we the we've would get these moderated revenue operating profit into get because incremental dollar be SG&A, we revenue we taken as follow profit

were got of very after the answer, I margin Group. half reason. where but significant I I for to And that that EBIT of So we back the good expect a the a Flavor long going improvement see think begin in there. year would think you you A

Brett Hundley

And to MNC mentioned at that one customers. me, it. any portfolio? of other the definitely in and quick good they You sales noticing beverage just to Are it food interest yesterday and either color, of I saw regards was so large IFF guys of appreciate follow-up. least parts any then in point this, time, with mid-QX flavor you very for did, your an colors or inflection just

Paul Manning

flavors the focus lot Cs. see, can flavors it to things of to growth. begin really. and Well, Bs maybe that factor our We driving really I guess, those necessarily you think, We of perhaps, the not multinationals really And with. don't on in as I sell a was one more so –

were conversions still last in I been say drivers I a there's synthetic year natural from are C, to XXXX. local certainly these for and amongst the you B the think multinationals. couple There on the color key side, activity I that regionals, would sure. some of big But and would tell these

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they're volume. I think some be multinationals on may but the down up on in cases, sales,

So I don't know.

it I could about – was anything see an inflection I that didn't As significant case, in, call call business, which it our in I point. think

it's maybe of I perspective, matter hope – a it's he's So but a right.

Brett Hundley

think operate the if sure. had I just other And side you. drivers that there different for you seen curious No, for do guys was on business. some I are of elsewhere, you but color a

So I follow-up. for comments. appreciate the the And thanks

Paul Manning

thing year. in many, it of I've or companies one Brett, that, get or the was definition many many discontinued a out this offering, on And other in quite get six are was that only but years, churn in be could months from product and and there three months, significant for they last year, limited product have I products what launched killed be seen perhaps saying, it's intended And inferred churn would highest was significant to The even rate attrition a XXXX. the be ever. or time

unusual and more in B my customers, products, in general, – launch get these Now are many opinion, some even and quicker they to C in of this and you is markets. are of when they the launching more

can be So very, rates to high. very the failure tend

big attrition that you So wins. significant cover in to got rate, order to have

in happening market was last Our was strong lot of rate company what quite churn. was there was the win year, but a

a think year be churn give could goes more And factor subsided market that XXXX, is products as color on. of want or remaining in to on for elevated? key rather I it the has be still I So would that you looking you

products. XX any use a colas made, just Proposition thing, caramel create an products. in warning on Technically, caramel in those It clarify Proposition to XX of other principally sort product. is I One outlaw the other not with lest earlier of to for colors, does the just and the I comment respect consternation, California the

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Steve Rolfs

will That any you if questions, everybody we thank call. after our Okay. conclude have participating follow-up I today. can And for those call. handle the

thank So you.


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