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Hormel Foods (HRL)

Participants
Nathan Annis Director of Investor Relations
Jim Snee Chairman of the Board, President and Chief Executive Officer
Jim Sheehan Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Michael Lavery Piper Jaffray
Robert Moskow Credit Suisse
Thomas Palmer JPMorgan
Akshay Jagdale Jefferies
Eric Larson Buckingham Research Group
Adam Samuelson Goldman Sachs
Benjamin Theurer Barclays
Jeremy Scott Mizuho
Heather Jones Vertical Group
Robert Moskow Credit Suisse
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Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Hormel Foods Fourth Quarter 2018 Earnings Release Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode.

As a reminder, this conference is being recorded on Tuesday, November 20, 2018. I would like to turn the conference over to Nathan Annis, Director of Investor Relations. Mr. ahead, go Please Annis.

Nathan Annis

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Jim Snee

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Jim Sheehan

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Operator

go [Operator from take with our Michael Piper Lavery Jaffray. Instructions] ahead. Please first question And we'll

Michael Lavery

Can or the bit but down you that You've about little should seem like think savings? clarify talked the that a it road something million, about more think that? savings. type what's to doesn’t right Is way XX the restructuring it about chain we how likely any should includes supply bigger

Jim Snee

thing the we it way about and we making indentify that to and the process, strategically saying started-off and get had best savings. the the Michael structure think could the that to reinvest think validate the right I is capture, we year was

look is XXXX keen the labor, logistics. on focus to and differently certainly we overhead, And supply. thinking team as manufacturing So optimize procurement

the and Fremont let's of forget put divestiture. freight in we them fact the course, that not increases the Of middle the

the thing. XXXX more the starting they're But bigger they towards we'll structural and you things. some to also will I tell going that of So on. have have pivot lot a

be that example the baseline for has we as most that probably network the would possible. of freight making over the shifted have long-term is So an sure optimize

like center, that travel how distribution do we the a so long-term. for And over miles what does look fewer

yes the now, short-term combination and we and right getting those a long-term So, it structural are is more But of to issues. of some things. bigger

Michael Lavery

your as the these have or visibility get down further of best and year could do of good those amount you projects And 'XX, you later pretty into upside the number for be in that a will road? have some

Jim Snee

is know Those closer. get will we we'll realistic the us what that we and more I a little know road. be thoughtful, so as further for and down mean disciplined

Jim Sheehan

add, I we we're item synergies $XX that previously would is excludes Michael, other million The acquisitions. about in any that talking announced our have

Operator

And our question Moskow next Credit will ahead. Robert with Please take from Suisse. go

Robert Moskow

recovery of I was fourth the that Couple the you little a give Can us is being on the on -- got guidance in quarter for is lofty, sales as would things the price but secondly thought are expectations, pretty markets in about. got that And on you've guide particularly well? is the that numbers especially curious commodity be of hog said there? assumption to and in more you how would the price. 'XX, on guide, composite What you light prices get up, be color some expecting there? lower how then you And you order below that

Jim Snee

we 'XX -- set we for we very XX in we in we up off GP was sales segments, really 'XX, looked because a really QX that think there business in grocery at across incremental have the the look weaker think about products have well the healthy. the did As QX and sales realistic. but baseline we've guidance we're of are fact coming that have we our didn’t the When some different as driver did

growth expect of growth. the to expect XXXX, single more value-added a digits same terms see. we into it’s that mid Refrigerated that foods, heading to the in business So we show lot

line anything we've low line achievable. And in single-digit. I there, expecting single which growth high not crazy mean is expectations the of We’re with and believe top got our digit international our increase really we JOTS. then historic very is on

give guide very do is other question. your sales the on on believe I'll you the and ask achievable, more realistic So and color little maybe

Jim Sheehan

volatility makeup online. of based similar We the be we to are them the growth the Hog the in industry prices XXXX, expect coming the supply to hog now low capacity expect structural single-digits. right including and be on to low up the

online spread, trimmed prices, higher XXXX. the of including we the beef be the to coming hog the capacity supply, be that we expect Regarding because commodity in while lower and additional down available expect the will delis

Robert Moskow

negative and China's that any or that have And to issues, soon assumptions you put a Is herd might for what exports? or hog for American mean disease tell? too positive

Jim Sheehan

soon business. plan, opportunity but Rob, It's able to tell I we're the limited fever and to in early the pricing exactly assumed really export to that radar a if potentially for risk really swine we'll is you everyone what but s it's to of like sure because said. do you, African of And some take risk believe It's rest pork we with it too business it is tell. this watching our a an it would tell. that risk China else's. in to China have market, the be But too We our I’m line in certainly

Operator

take we go JPMorgan. from question Thomas Please with will our ahead. Palmer And next

Thomas Palmer

trend wanted some call that that I I or provide about set set margins the the overall commentary the to first was quarter hoping how provide across segments. queues up. here In quarter around the the on past, up? seeing first again just you’re different could EBIT and you and you ask

Jim Snee

benefit the so year quarter. in a heavily the situation have comments fact then will will QX. very we so Sheehan's by we and business tell would to or year, I done couple haven’t that about Yes, expenses of we the little heard the closing and did you QX last of Fremont guide out unique that recovery skewed in tax Jim Last of just much credit you the things mega really we was you have we in we called JOTS would some for as QX. that impact the talked because have bit I were a to

a have early in year. headwind So as that obviously, we're to going the

Thomas Palmer

that talk what just side, mentioned Is top of the you already the you're on terms Milk that maybe bottom? inflection? that you to And for meaningful contribution and year. follow-up Muscle in in And on business about can its both then seeing

Jim Snee

So part and top is several Milk talked show year business of throughout the to about we've really growth components or the bottom growth the that And continues the would take business. Tetra that the different grown line business. from imply and Muscle again the home multi-pack has

seen will food You've and has as their category, in expand that continue ready in and sports be in been to more mass they to healthy that the space. drug business out nutrition XXXX. We've seen recovery joint

really driver channel the and is resources that there business, e-commerce building-up growth continues back that is just the saw supports have traditional online business that expect competency spent into time brick-and-mortar that pressure and and we half more we shift the that in business, we to area for in now of effort specialty would, and said XXXX. be business. had that the the we powder continue the under of year like the from So we digital and to The muscle

Operator

next we'll And Jagdale our from Akshay take ahead. Please go question with Jefferies.

Akshay Jagdale

from bit. pricing to in you the this cost been industry the tighten bit maybe what think as next But wanted us Turkey you specific you’ve quite you a when you which go little cost headwinds the long. belt ask the business. was some about issues and cycle, I'm you I there specific that sure issues also Can some gone dimensionalize through been through wise your has talk has commodity year. Obviously, grow Can -- mean a about helps -- you address going I there into down a company can division. out more. cycle, the little

in specific high-level? So is into of are company -- underperformance much and margins genuine we can how versus you where context put us turkey help turkey, industry the

Jim Snee

think in the where the key is be. we need need what driver going in I is is better fundamentals really us to business that mean get we I to JOTS industry. the that

happening, so we're still of And we've pace. that but some disappointed the in seen

growth, looking that But just to continue modest we'll a the so And industry. into growth. in XXXX, that we outperform projecting know modest we're we are

avian And keen the about areas to much security really team are more initiative as so on and unique facilities on the without work in continues sure those cost-effective. companywide while with on the to avoid we and optimize them. they talked make Akshay, antibiotics to Clearly, a solutions term initiatives. for our Jim some And of consumers, so another we our We doing outbreak. that mentioned, can of to can the had freight make efficient in we’re that's the that raise mutually making continue business, have how progress working And we and not that’s focus as a anyone to network. agreeable the our in long side it they're impacted find still influenza

a trend. XXXX, we know, part invested reinvesting trend. continues year. be Turkey in is other is to as We The as we see on brands in it again that on the this business brand We'll be in the

so industry. industry, to in the things we done us to outperform put the position the a our to we've versus and to outperformance accelerate performance, our point continue we have And think be

Jim Sheehan

state-of-the-art we’re new spring. new take plant very a that to in that Melrose item one excited I that Akshay, would a level. efficiencies add That’s really plant the our coming will online about is the

the as going business will, for that So time. industry has increase that Jim to the This said, a long is outperformance. allow to outperformed us

Akshay Jagdale

one way. was Rob And in on but different asking about, just a maybe follow-up what

so with happening is price. your exposure Looking it's segments, to prices tell what's hard to unique full your with commodity really that the through business meat

to it being cost you’re overall seeing can picked high wise and inflation what level at us up sense industry relates food as So pricing give up. freight has you

than we take in And so the we Or you feel now on characterize what's like where how all the more finding But success are companies you that taking months are ago? cycle? talking environment? pricing. your about would Are six

Jim Snee

I than anybody think that. we’re different in else no

at factors. all these We’re of looking macro

situation. we African really it dynamic it's tariffs, swine basis. And continue whether freight, a It's So to a category-by-category at look on clearly fever, exports.

so and JOTS refrigerated foods market based, And are the more market. closer to

talking And about. And have driven less is are pricing pricing early impacted frequently. that 'XX, really by by at do don’t 'XX the only at and a categories will And that look category obviously just bit more basis. so move we're looking market macro you and we pricing. pricing GP took late we issues we

has in holistic We’re each of understand guess trade, would puts number and growth I never sure of make think obviously projected that taking that taking solid pricing also categories one other be. the will has we those really sure we to two look making view and us corresponding our roles. very so each position the revenue brands been the the fact have it initiatives, of leadership levers that elasticity. And to fact management our brands never I ever that we in But easy, in understands regards number are a

Akshay Jagdale

you you But forget. be I I million? one are -- last guidance that what's housekeeping the profit three the will result know gone a of the one, did XX, for terms contribution of just say of profits magnitude year? months that will still next deal. next assuming the as but are $XX costs roughly be it Is roughly mean, order the I And the in year P&L not in

Jim Snee

plant the Fremont going would of a also the major discussed is on expect the be during that are -- from those margins plants, XX% script but that profits of We or in the this portion three year. on those down decrease that the the Fremont those sale commodity the and hogs to we spread year,

both. of So I it's think a combination

Operator

Group. go next Buckingham question with ahead. And Please Larson our we'll Eric from take Research

Eric Larson

GAAP in this, which it's -- in excluding, guidance the How your GAAP. I'm happens QX, question just outlined, number. not assumption? Fremont December. are you will follow-up that to want of but Is come answer a the little of that's you if assuming the fair much sales the know on a make a I that those expenses expenses so to think I included -- in are sure or guidance probably

Jim Snee

That's Eric. fair a assumption,

Eric Larson

And then question, I follow-up in which the CytoSport second here to we the for quarter. impairment the is, charge on saw wanted

business. business little the I advertising still widely CytoSport competitive. needs powder a sales on is support the the think that Jim side bit of side need? But track? I a issue behind to putting the that of e-commerce Is for fair toward else of it? moving get But in what more and back only amount you're that about think you else talked what also a the Or to this it's fix still happen

Jim Snee

infrastructure the of curve terms as of have sales were the shifted, digital the that out I was having we things, that called Eric, in those needed. behind One we

which we're has the advertising infrastructure that initiative we where different us to in be big place that now we feel advertising those and highly perspective, we're has effective. like appropriate slightly content so finding some And have sales team an From that messaging, position reallocated and of we for a in we into have a dollars need. the

the so think really bigger for those I were well-positioned to XXXX. that things of And done two we get we're and had

Operator

Sachs. with our Adam we'll Please ahead. Samuelson Goldman go next question And take from

Adam Samuelson

first the guess I Jennie-O. question in

us $X year. above in about I terms pricing early new help meat think market couple down did I the pass of the of only margins potentially terms improvement. about improvement I you would down, flu? the shutting for direction being you mid-teens path placements fiscal in to talk profit like pulp 'XX. indicators think talked for still through back about calling pre-avian moving competitor guess modest a it to those getting mean of in Can modest the breast Can are the profit of here? business in And this some being look right

Jim Snee

fundamentals in direction. It's I think are moving the you really right touched the on this.

the is biggest the issue think I disappointment there in the pace. really

actually down trend up was look a And the so even the though little it if last at for in placements, full bit. you was quarter October,

got we've to fundamentals with stay accelerate. those track see think I and So on them

meat positive. levels We level. still at again, coming historically pricing. in down but see a a regards see breast inventory certainly correct as that high as We to positive You're

to need we that accelerate. see So

outperform we we be will back accelerate. times, said but to accelerate industry continue in to fundamentals continue things to that the -- we normalized will behind to several the doing We as outperformance, us help levels, the see the scenes truly need really the more get we're and place to

Adam Samuelson

volume some the or you you -- capacity the first point to us the through sooner mean about At and to foods, Columbus refrigerated grow the you happen a quarter. volumes in what put the organic quarter help on volume Fontanini's in I the were And new the just the that mean in. to hog my disconnect point in organic levels. be should that from after does the or side at then think did through in harvest. think is layering as first question need harvest organic glare I started down about attributed this X%, that growing just here And trying into actually lower hog second past trajectory volumes refrigerated over organically?

Jim Snee

year XXXX that the business that will will it been investments that businesses driving XXXX sales support think made see and value volume, is and you a investment We board. see that the across be is see I will the where of year that growth. in the those connect. are intentional to terms really added you we've in very that earnings that We've

Operator

And ahead. go Theurer take with we will question our Barclays. from Benjamin next Please

Benjamin Theurer

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Jim Snee

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Benjamin Theurer

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Jim Snee

Yes.

Benjamin Theurer

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Jim Snee

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Operator

question Please And we'll our with next Mizuho. take ahead. Jeremy go from Scott

Jeremy Scott

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So $XX million is the fiscal something in your guidance there's in million organic range operational in improvements implying XX? to of that $XX

Jim Snee

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Jeremy Scott

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Jim Snee

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Jeremy Scott

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Jim Snee

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Jeremy Scott

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Jim Snee

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Operator

Heather question next with our take from we'll go Jones And ahead. Vertical Please Group.

Heather Jones

in on benign than A your talking lower of not about freight, more on so companies outlook -- other you comments of are some in what commentary 'XX real honestly, but freight industry quick on the the the some your articulated.

could in if wondering was on I you what saw similar side. So you 'XX are you -- envisioning the freight to inflation

Jim Snee

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Heather Jones

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Jim Snee

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Operator

Credit Suisse. take with question will Moskow Robert we go from ahead. our Please And final

Robert Moskow

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Jim Snee

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Jim Sheehan

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Robert Moskow

expense corporate million year. it like $XX question, Last this was

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Jim Sheehan

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Robert Moskow

the in Jim. So then, something mid-XXs

Jim Sheehan

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Operator

time. And call over there this or closing would to like are back phone additional questions, I the turn no now further Snee any remarks. at Jim for to

Jim Snee

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Operator

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