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Bath & Body Works (BBWI)

Participants
Amie Preston Chief Investor Relations Officer
Stuart Burgdoerfer EVP and CFO
Omar Saad Evercore ISI
Oliver Chen Cowen and Company
Susan Anderson B Riley
Tiffany Kanaga Deutsche Bank
Edward Yruma KeyBanc Capital Markets
Ike Boruchow Wells Fargo
Alexandra Walvis Goldman Sachs
Alexandra Straton Morgan Stanley
Mark Altschwager Baird
Kate Fitzsimons RBC Capital Markets
William Reuter Bank of America
Paul Lejuez Citi Research
Jamie Merriman Bernstein
Adrienne Yih Barclays
Roxanne Myers MKM Partners
Lorraine Hutchinson Bank of America
Michael Binetti Credit Suisse
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Operator

Good morning. My name is Amy and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the L Brands Fourth Quarter 2019 Earnings Conference Call. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. Instructions] [Operator

turn Officer to of now Chief Amie call Relations Investor L the will Ms. over Preston, I Brands.

You may begin.

Amie Preston

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Stuart Burgdoerfer

Thanks, morning, Amie, and good everyone.

we questions the we for the I'd like open Partners with to up to related to some take your key transformative points transaction last week. that Sycamore before call announced a highlight minutes few

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Thanks. And over to you, Amie.

Amie Preston

Thanks Stuart.

concludes yourself to to to questions one any this back the our And time might others, have. of and In prepared consideration we'd time, take please interest I'll it to you That be comments. happy now, turn At limit question. Amy. over

Operator

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Omar Saad

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Stuart Burgdoerfer

for Omar. the question, thanks Yes,

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Amie Preston

Omar. Thanks,

please. Next question

Operator

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Oliver Chen

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Stuart Burgdoerfer

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of leadership its what best that's and begun engage specifically to close of so, already a what change, and will to the current some needs terms relaying the opportunities and as appropriately Sycamore will transaction is And with business the of business in of are. obviously, the where

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Amie Preston

Oliver. Thanks,

question. Next

Operator

Susan question FBR. Anderson is from Riley, comes open. line next of Your Susan, with line your B the

Susan Anderson

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Stuart Burgdoerfer

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Operator

with your is Your Tiffany, from Tiffany Deutsche next the question Kanaga Bank. open. of comes line line

Tiffany Kanaga

you you growth? rolling pace I against XXXX for off and guidance, year what profit pressures providing not about growth? discuss you're but this longer-term Bath algorithm how cadence the perhaps Body anticipate At could headwinds are the these the operating Works do thinking & for you know

Stuart Burgdoerfer

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Amie Preston

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those will continue. So, investments

to Some of year tariffs start moderate of the in implementations. the sourcing pressure-related lap will the as half the we back investments

Stuart Burgdoerfer

Tiffany. Thanks,

Amie Preston

question. Next

Operator

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Edward Yruma

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Stuart Burgdoerfer

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Amie Preston

Thanks.

question Next please.

Operator

comes Wells line your Fargo. Ike is Your from question next Boruchow open. the line Ike, with of

Ike Boruchow

policy Victoria's now you how BBW/LB that should a Victoria's Thanks. big of terms about in? about to versus on lease Stuart, business new should is revenue that's balance structure the dividend then, dividend remaining And to billion from in BBW the about sheet? liabilities Secret. what remain $X.X we potential capital least, the smaller talked be liabilities going that Can or going at perspective you will the the to any of lease is with think changes take the LB talk

Stuart Burgdoerfer

Thanks, Ike.

million. exposure and literature So, BBW/LB That a related what Victoria's book to exposure estimates $XXX a will liability exposure to have is leases related accounting or the Secret The store I'll of to in roundly leases. potential, liability call, us office net terms some that exposure that. contingent gross roughly some requires

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Amie Preston

Ike. Thanks,

Next question please.

Operator

Walvis your Alex Goldman is with the line open. of Your question comes from next line Sachs. Alex,

Alexandra Walvis

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Stuart Burgdoerfer

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Amie Preston

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Stuart Burgdoerfer

know, expect. including these you to would this, what important numbers. and and is be incented, appreciate Alex, incented financially, management to That's will beat And would you

fact, In that's how it works.

current better hard do work this, we'll to that's So, but view. than our

Amie Preston

Thanks, Alex.

Next question please.

Operator

Your comes Stanley. the next Greenberger line Morgan Kimberly, is from of with your Kimberly line open. question

Alexandra Straton

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Stuart Burgdoerfer

Yes.

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Amie Preston

Thanks, Alex.

Next question please.

Operator

comes question next your of from the Mark, Baird. line with line is open. Mark Altschwager Your

Mark Altschwager

follow I components wanted here. I to the of couple a real up BBW on guess estate plans.

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Stuart Burgdoerfer

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Amie Preston

Mark. Thanks

Next please.

Operator

with next comes line Kate the Your your Markets. of is question Fitzsimons from line RBC Kate, Capital open.

Kate Fitzsimons

about greater nature about transaction? offsetting TSAs some you about the of with think the dyssynergies dyssynergies could TSAs maybe Stuart, frame How associated the as here? the detail some time them go shape of out well of as should five just provide the this the years. of the I some believe some of potentially we and

some just be there you. helpful. Thank color would So,

Stuart Burgdoerfer

You're welcome.

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Amie Preston

Kate. Thanks

question please. Next

Operator

from William, of question William Bank the of line next Your line is Reuter open. with your comes America.

William Reuter

trying work should It you the business through Have on go-forward about seems strong. a what be CapEx like Just for relatively cash free basis the it BBW might to thought flow. be? standalone

Stuart Burgdoerfer

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Amie Preston

Bill. Thanks,

Next question please.

Operator

line is next with comes Paul, Citi question Research. Lejuez line open. Your Paul your of from the

Paul Lejuez

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Stuart Burgdoerfer

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Amie Preston

Paul. Thanks,

Next please. question

Operator

of your open. comes Your question line from Jamie is Jamie, next Merriman with Bernstein. the line

Jamie Merriman

the start, BBW business just you strongly, said. has can as growing I direct so from If been

re-platformed Victoria's know So, needs the making you're with I recently I'm e-commerce that I'm And you're tech And wondering just to at omnichannel if if about Thanks. talk something underlying you've or the similar investments if in happy platform. BBW Secret business. capabilities. could wondering e-commerce what done you be

Stuart Burgdoerfer

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Amie Preston

Thanks, Jamie.

question Next please.

Operator

comes Yih Adrian, is Barclays. from line question Adrienne next your Your open. line of with the

Adrienne Yih

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Stuart Burgdoerfer

Yes.

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Amie Preston

Thanks, Adrian.

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Operator

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Roxanne Myers

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Stuart Burgdoerfer

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Amie Preston

Roxanne. Thanks,

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Operator

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Lorraine Hutchinson

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Amie Preston

Last Thanks, question please. Lorraine.

Operator

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Michael Binetti

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Amie Preston

point, And, I on $XXX stay million sheet. to our not clarify one balance does Mike, want that just That will be... necessarily

Stuart Burgdoerfer

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Amie Preston

great. Yes,

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Operator

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