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First Midwest Bancorp (ONBPP)

Participants
Nicholas Chulos Executive Vice President, General Counsel and Corporate Secretary
Michael Scudder President and Chief Executive Officer
Mark Sander Senior Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer
Patrick Barrett Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Christopher McGratty Keefe Bruyette & Woods Inc.
Brad Milsaps Sandler O'Neill & Partners LP
Terry McEvoy Stephens Inc.
Michael Young SunTrust Robinson Humphrey
Nathan Race Piper Jaffray
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Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the First Midwest Bancorp 2018 First Quarter Earnings Conference Call. At this time, I would like to inform you that this conference is being recorded and that all participants are in a listen-only mode. At the request of the company, we will open the conference up for questions and answers for analysts only after the presentation. It is now my pleasure to turn the floor over to Nick Chulos, Executive Vice President, General Counsel and Corporate Secretary of First Midwest Bancorp. Sir, you may begin.

Nicholas Chulos

thank joining and today. everyone morning, you us for Good

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Michael Scudder

Great. Thank you, Nick. Thanks. Good morning, everyone.

with started great Let thank me to add you. here for and with joining my Nick what today. be to you us It's thanks

as on move quarter, we for supplemental a had through in of last our we or we you with practice remarks. really presentation Nick started started a as us shared, we to follow As provided continuation

then and through Pat with start walk Mark me you and highlights, let So the components. can the

to quarter as standards M&A impact challenged quarter, that tax certainly that went $X.XX well quarter the reform. we $X.XX effect. And compared last quarter XXXX's in first this share year's We additionally activity, the into of are accounting by earned $X.XX and the recognize quarter. versus for last quarter, to as For a comparisons as changes

our do I to what refer core we'll So bridge to best underlying as to performance. would

earnings on year operating comparison are largely performance, quarter was that X% for linked due per growth per our the recognized Earning impacted. to strong. very which costs quarter, was with are acquisition reform, versus in provision to and we And seasonally was same down average quarter the a XQ about loss funding responsive share loan share quarter, the pleased X% tax to about solid, asset comparatively linked For largely XXXX's led tax up was and average expense. after that higher loan quarter. was up underlying adjusted by Overall, Deposit comparisons linked on $X.XX growth. and annualized ago those

fourth saw a given that the us to fact So quarter we was the flat seasonality. that actually positive linked quarter a very relative for result

mix core only and of underlying modestly. betas Our deposits up stable remains were

from clients to impact for what the reclassification well it the performed quarter. accounting of improvement points. adjusting compare more our required has And also well excited business as deliver about by as progress. simply I scalable. make here, experience from tightly XX also Expenses perspective for review it's controlled would for Similarly, allow expense our tax will quarter. quarter, impact make Excellence if that's reported came accretion provides meaningful strong and the margin came continues changes And equivalency initiative of platform expanded. X.X%, improved While in we tax lower down our Mark reform, our you greater for both to efficiency. the at comparison extension XXXX. you Once detail differential that in they about underlying service well year-over-year, in that the levels year-over-year we're our fees were basis of Durbin emphasize which fee to also actually margin the it this those, execution Again, was X%. and as because in as up to of Delivering

in started, was speak elevated, detail. So credit little Then for the again, to loan as quarter I for a that provisioning largely stronger greater comparatively Mark can growth. due

look you first about we quarter, actually of worth If had our linked $XXX quarter growth. at million

If a million $XX that quarter basis, to for that on growth. quarter saw you compare the of about same quarter, fourth worth linked we

and impacted more natural, by that problem credits. to about of in efforts, today's the cover that charge-offs variability frankly, will further. had benign attended was by It is Mark But historically we be I offer quarter-to-quarter provisioning overall to environment. in $XXX growth recognition Again, in remediation million two and higher So the for remediation independent extension, simply quarter. would net expected also

let over Pat turn that, and additional for it color. with to So me Mark

Mark Sander

Mike. Thanks,

growth transactional So targeted see about, of solid talked $XXX Mike across and loan platforms starting on earnings Page our X about presentation, in you call activity. growth, that growth can the some first our From the quarter. organic million

The first the of year loan growth. our quarter typically for is slowest

half for Given modest which are total post to the we accounted units, this, our growth across nearly of business multiple in pleased increases quarter.

sectors activity. levels willing closely, to thus, of very healthcare, all reported Specifically, Also, our and with our few some resulting monitor offset than them and construction are commercial structured to in these C&I office pay-downs more able comfortable growth. expanded from our but and lines view, team currently at and was properties, finance two expand industrial franchise We a in real multi-family further. sales regional, estate

as consumer gain Lastly, solid quarter with our momentum. mortgage posted book organic to continuing a well,

in consumer also elected $XXX to million We over C&I. transactional a purchase high-quality of and credits

going attractive this base, assets with flows and our maintain as our an loan slightly we target cash area towards leveraged raising light periodically In will risk for the solid quarter, continuing full year. have strong flexibility growth favorable are in forward. we this this our eye All return and way. well deposit pipelines, given as of future We first

In level recognize early credits caused year, than quarter. of these linked each year. deterioration The had QX increase led to provision end to Turning two credits isolated. to with we the in were we which loan anticipated at strong higher in X, Page this million growth, in us last versus unique a asset issues our the quality a conjunction at this in on and $X experienced unfortunately losses two

X, to expect range basis in normalized Going is charge-off stability potential we company. that in confidence with the Thus, the points guidance. our annualized XX XX as a elevated full of our strength variability guidance for non-performing, adverse in watch performing gives credit Page XX basis within XX demonstrated to as as our still QX, The us being remain points. favorable Deposits, macro-environment some forward, by well to year quarter. categories, we and our see overall total of remain charge-offs despite on

$XXX added we quarter. Our mix XX% at in strong the million even deposits time core, in remains while about

will to We across be market all continue types. competitive deposit

of platform, Our integration QX, our but of indication also strong average deposits went. standard underlying year-over-year were an how up reflective our in about X% well

now Pat So, cover will NII and margins.

Patrick Barrett

Thanks, the call Mark, in. on good are morning and who to everyone listening

million in the period income from higher XXXX, quarter expectations. $X securities, quarter, and decline million cost was million to Turning down interest offset the fourth of cost basis, quarter by and stable $X by margin and the income quarter days the increase X, rates in quarter, benefited net accretion higher to our On from offset the was X% with same driven prior XXXX. quarter, on to compared period and in partly accretion growth a and same to loans same $X funds. Compared overall compared down by the from Slide consistent interest funds. linked rates net Acquired loan lower and XXXX, interest million higher and in up first loan in loan and fewer higher in accretion interest to the growth, of contributed the period $X the

after entire We $XX scheduled in should the that, remind of million year. quarter levels a to need declining project Having volatility first the that the and to million half I $XX the relatively some quarter amounts the be quarterly said continue in accretion from stable half expected. $X of first per you quarter, year to the million year, second for million remaining XXXX, in $X

quarter compared XXXX. interest X Moving down X same line quarter expectations, down the and to for of NIM was net points prior for tax the period in current the X.XX% points with margin, to basis basis in equivalent

from prior the driven was margin quarter, of XXXX, Excluding higher the the benefited higher by accretion by rates period excluding Compared Compared same to from basis was the points a period higher flat in and expanded margin prior points to funding margin largely principally Current accretion, XX tax impact quarter increase would rates. the absent costs. reduction in lower offset period tax-equivalent at X higher federal income year-ago. positive same the X.XX% rates. to basis adjustment reflecting the been have

due Turning million to [as up to the million earning Compared more earning securities assets assets, said] prior average loan balances $XXX to than quarter lower reflecting both nearly and were loan growth. partly year growth, $XXX earning [ph]. up assets were offset by linked

First January and quarter has income margin, in and expectations both provided interest results in call our were with generally net changed. our for line the outlook not

growth offset earning full-year range last mid single-digit We to FTE an interest asset XXXX. compared reported interest year full growth benefits in and for expect continue to the range the compared earning high mid-single-digit be rates relatively to the year, accretion. are of when X.XX% and expected consistent the by lower on annual for asset to basis to XXXX of Net GAAP net we the higher income margin growth is in as

that flows. this NIM income our be Mark January I'll and are X it And projections Excluding interest I accretion, recognition we discuss municipal adoption expense expect between noninterest Prior modest growth due of and expansion if standard basis. noninterest to to income, volatility to remiss movements an a finally, on to rates, you pace FTE due of are deposit turning the on remind didn't back remind that to loan subject results to of I'd seasonal bit noisy revenue in year. you in

there As against adjusted in disclosure practical Slide a the basis, related in is release prior fees and on we're on is result, challenges of a Mark perspective to Slide of bridge nearly you card for no the is and noninterest over the net impact to this accordance with of additional GAAP noninterest on earnings restatement. $X back X. income. netted both mind reclassification, expense, in discuss and merchant and and were previously through presented We X This Turn to Keep a done presentation. to expenses, reclassified the income. not periods it income in noninterest try such in change X million this

Mark Sander

Pat. Thanks,

Slide guidance. in line and So on X, our income with expectations again noninterest was

areas main as noise year. management, We but of Pat QX up by X% were we amount which of out, management, the versus and This solid wealth referenced, a that period focus, of have was posted to treasury all this driven all fair our year. last in same quarter stripping start a the card

outlook of expense. noninterest quarterly increase million to $X going XXXX to QX cover levels. that $X Pat Our our should forward income in noninterest is million off going is

Patrick Barrett

So $X moving noninterest by fees. impacted on to was quarter previously the and of mentioned, expenses reclass as card expense merchant Slide total X, on for the million

prior million related $X controlled $XXX In stable to very year, the XXXX, ratio items, of the bonuses sub passage tightly million addition $XX first contributions included charitable remain in XX%. these and the expenses of acquisition And expenses. efficiency while Away included at to and is million integration our from quarter reform, of level. of quarterly tax

be the all it'd Our more largely with on but growth guidance noise, we to explicit. felt expense remains helpful unchanged be

quarter million year, we $XX reported does in per a the guidance expect for is quarter this more the with effective a proxy on average $X expenses the at not our share-based by this payments. million related tax that in moment. $XX Excellence compared initiative was contemplate growth to low-single-digit first Quick on effect taxes, So and $XX for to reported of on the rate million we Note employee Delivering million that benefit word quarter. point to impacted come good our

impacted write-down tax quarter associated by tax prior deferred asset with addition reform. In was the to

quarter current items, our have would the the XX% these tax in Excluding to been prior XX% compared quarter. rate effective for

of our equity, continue unrealized the to quarter tax common phase-in the impacted Certain growth of to basis Compared up in income effective strong. linked to be increase our our For capital earnings. decreased to Basel equity is tangible due with by III a were tangible of common due XX environment. continue loss impact largely interest year-ago, available-for-sale by the be Wrapping slightly offset XX%. or ratios impact we do AOCI our to accumulated capital the on generation excluding the ratios to final approximately that not X. AOCI rate on general, certain expect of up comprehensive Slide Capital In the other and provisions, higher capital points. include securities XXXX, year loan rate and

Delivering turn I'll over it for Mark to back Excellence. Now, remarks on

Mark Sander

If you see, on is Page XX. on update Excellence our Delivering

You'll that last customer our at efficiency. recall improve Difficulty] began processes of we a year, and [Technical the end service review diagnostic delivery,

We are more quarter, in that also namely of only XXXX provide nearing but implementation the X% future we we will any as while that it anticipate that will remain expense Mike hit of full broad and referenced. at information detailed in objectives, initiative year. expectations, likely not We least benefit a we our for meet comfortable but in early the with available our cost the by run early these growth noninterest completion this in reduction rate of encouraged anticipate the scalability exceed be second end will XXXX,

provide summary our Mike on XX. we it we've back Page remarks. that conclude a all to I'll of discussed brief turn just prepared So to

Michael Scudder

Mark. Thanks, Okay.

So open it before just remarks some up final questions. we for

As balance we look ahead remains sheet strong. our

outstanding. well as run combined rate Our with average core higher corporate higher taxes. out base as Credit deposit will rates and assets, lower more costs and to assets return normalized earning is

and We to momentum expect build an earnings of to extension is continue strengthen obviously capital that.

Delivering just is nicely. shared, Excellence Mark As progressing

its the and course quarters. is more to do time, view And lot over We strategic continues This communicate expect take a either it's at preceding and that. we healthy certainly implementation But soon management a the thereafter. that obviously, don't gathered priority for business a toward implementation specific of you growing continue soon the an to to to as just inhibitor part as a distraction of usual. the be being need effort to or steps to of same progress This organization us.

with up for open that, it let's So questions.

Operator

Instructions] will at session this Thank sir. you, question-and-answer time. sir. question, stand begin for The first by [Operator Please your

McGratty with go will ahead. The question Chris come first from KBW. Please

Christopher McGratty

good everybody. Hey, morning,

Michael Scudder

morning. Good

Patrick Barrett

Good morning.

Christopher McGratty

Pat, with on maybe cost the you, start plan.

Just initial want to sure understanding the I'm it. make of discussion

$XX we call is XXXX inflation, $XXX base $XXX it to roughly on guide million it quarter, million. million if near-term million grow which around starting rate. X%, $XXX annualize around Your that Is or $XX expenses at you is million per run If you're I'm I'm or think I to thinking obviously conceptually the a going the any to that cost, X% $XXX to million X%-plus way want kind of take adjustments? about you But to just about off sure right. it not of hold make number.

Patrick Barrett

think not Well, across of a I is more $XX spread hold think it number. prepared, details on us give reduction we'll going it's good to guidance right you're as to a now, about best to way don't million the expenses the explicit the year. in we rate that, because all But run of sort have

sale And with remainder million if range. remind with I'll So million a $X The goes higher our X come tier $XXX in having the up of into occupancy mid of an would you of accounting about of we our to lease have XXXX guidance as about full expense the take year, for effect additional leaseback. $XX of the somewhere million in offset do year upper you everybody, capital.

that's just it of But thing. onetime expense X% just this So the a at keep point, at rate.

Christopher McGratty

run-rate off of we the you would should kind forma normal around And of is that million assume some add-back? course sort suggesting inflation pro oc contemplate that then, Okay. inflation? are or of $XXX I mean, kind of that plus the

Patrick Barrett

we've doing and at before keeping inflationary of sort rather been even serving ongoing details costs. do offset that. have to up, to certainly good upward really in typically expectations, We X% the all staffing a are or our firmed job I that. a costs staffing But really bias, which of levels I'd below X% what have answer benefits is

for So XXXX I'd rather this not commit to inflation flat versus point. at

Christopher McGratty

can that then, your speak might of impact And revenue kind on Okay. any you to this have business?

Mark Sander

opportunities generate there Mark at believe building not in we We're terms as ready to will in length But - We're this base, think cross-sell treasury in is We in - there penetration well yet. retail and client revenues is greater certainly think revenue of impact. are that. Chris, to management. about be greater that any both we there talk as not

Christopher McGratty

Okay. this that the you, And, doing for Thanks. if levels to XXXX? a in company guys where sneak speak of of priority, given position deal, in one the can a the given could of kind to are are I Mike, resources you and lot capital you contemplating for appetite your

Michael Scudder

process as just from a don't lot a company. we'll strategically part usual of into of ourselves roadmap a as of we're implementation we Chris. opportunities we as the I'll But don't off then off building is what up build and business from then And accomplish, they executing same is delivering of trying consolidation, anything time, fit present being Well, - is certainly something energy business a us. with my to it that And the us strategic execution if themselves I certainly view questions, of would inhibit put for creating that prevented for and the at before best of what for to kind in as view those. our that as remarks interest We usual. priority a excellence think we or for its want consider opened do,

Christopher McGratty

thanks all for the Okay, color.

Michael Scudder

Great.

Operator

ahead. with The Milsaps question O'Neill. Please next Brad go Sandler comes from

Brad Milsaps

good Hey, guys. morning,

Michael Scudder

morning, Good Brad.

Brad Milsaps

terms curious, the was X% of - curious continue you what at be. returns, is of X% of just you X% you are that that I minus you kind curious if target? plan, trying what number, how and And the you of of to does need kind being right there on that got number. - end that the it. thinking the was kind think maybe I kind where at in and assume right how Just in equate But you arrived efficiency to ROA, or the puts of number where guys get kind around that to you would ROTCE of plus to

Michael Scudder

X% first solving Brad, bottoms-up does, frankly, And a certainly we around answer the which it it number, right number, goals. analysis. and and deliver right to answer. was because can felt that's efficiencies the not to And your it our look clients. will processes that question, our we had the through, I'll is how was say, part how But our take, we I'd there got of a our it we we generate at to based improve on got

part sorry, I'm second question The ROE… your again, of and about Brad, ROA our

Brad Milsaps

excellent I you of goals. is been you helping what mean, to leads led to Obviously, the Where Yeah, of - what hesitant have curious out. or yeah, just I about kind longer-term environment it you what interest guys you consider But, talk you to, do I guess? what of rate suppose? - kind do be kind profitability want

Patrick Barrett

We a to This move group, Brad. top Yeah, continue it be is will measure be of the performing, the historically we performing as a target third Pat. to things other recipe. what is performer broader of around. to peer because in really And takes national relative think group, alternatives and right high peer to our higher

XX% And has have now. in ROTCE of we're of So been door right that we level, for range. it in sort the knocking us a so historically thinking - to that on XX% something

to the not client [ph] because and profitability is the on is part is [away overall improving the others, we that stand it. of know from] and still Delivering make world - to of to ensure improving Excellence we experience relative progress going continue our the performance so And objective to

Michael Scudder

to the Brad, Yeah, to on that's to Mark said, it, initiative, very it well Pat. Delivering Excellence that. back I think just going hit add

we for create Our first that experience best is can to our priority client. the

ability off want do that from an opportunity It to deliver from out opportunity better. that world an and digital and that with make also create of recognizes they a of. grow it, the in do can which it. that. that technology we which clients and build the But back We way create skill-set it. create Those certainly service come the to have the platform and creates to importantly, happen that investments efficiencies, along play expectations They go a a most the also

that's level it. momentum tax positives that all out the So and consistently there upper XX% XX% to client. that when we out of now the guided drive ultimately, leverage need do you as within among the service top as of that continue on that greater perform judgment, and you say, But you - end And and those our that to the efficiency we are said, ROTCE, we've and certainly to And the generate given likely that's looking that's operational look, both earnings industry. return in comeback to that to to reform can real probably are in peers. deliver that to that

Brad Milsaps

great. for bought Okay, know the you that you think, loans during just some around you quarter, And follow-up bought I I the Mark, in some mentioned past. $XXX one maybe million. consumer-type products

much? I C&I think too. how I What's credits that loans in that guess, share of there the kind appetite, loan guidance curious are more you year? your would how buying and those some your I'm mix and does into for play for said just national also

Mark Sander

appetite of the quarter. and targets make To that's say, Those on question, the we think, I that larger yes, early okay, I slightly side, going fairly solid Then hit lower deals would to. we're we - didn't C&I of Our forward quality. underwriting fairly more given those our is high asset there. of we part the earning are low. syndicated perhaps low. the answer would so margin in quality - credit other with are to say, are, growth need just did a supplement a our little We the organic sure ended appetite and buying is that But C&I and bit up for high

Brad Milsaps

Okay, you. great. Thank

Operator

go question Stephens. with will ahead. McEvoy next The Terry be Please from

Terry McEvoy

morning. Good

Michael Scudder

Terry. Hi,

Terry McEvoy

at loans I a came I increase in so just little all, acquisition? any got maybe from the commercial call they common the The theme non-accrual bit curious an and late, Hi. on apologize. in portfolio, I'm

Michael Scudder

the was our some increase mean, running pretty quite modest of points basis levels in the for here. NPAs again, XX-ish same time have and I kind now. been theme, common No

So quarter. tick-up NPAs we had minor a this in

Terry McEvoy

Excellence, we need where think et And or has of there then, care how technology more this and for physical implementation cetera? investments some the kind Is other been of with should individuals, there locations, is costs? a take Delivering plans about expenses significant efficiency one-time investment the consistent to

Michael Scudder

But is this to say probably now. I'd little ready Terry, more on major bit, onetime the like but not lot. as technology a before are costs certainly There there there again, in some programs the a second out. come into that, And, you don't investments. quarter I delve try to be to will forthcoming think is are this. implement more is we're future than

Terry McEvoy

then, the today? overall within market Mark, pricing you, quarter, last your and And on C&I demand, one pipeline more what for space competition Okay. thoughts just middle maybe

Mark Sander

not capital solid. mood. out positive investments people based demand C&I overall are again, is like say, and to rushing tax reform. optimistic, make businesses It's But on are So the would there I overall

bit It's little strong. up it's versus last. this a actually quarter is pipeline - Our

long-term lower, is quarter, and leads And any new will. to QX. on where that's it So Nothing to last we QX, of depending been think spreads guess, underwrite we given in very hit were can given. say. growth competitive rub market renewed think a would the we just little to continue if as bit those for great Pricing I it's - unusual some us a symptomatic pressure. that risk we've competitive. I trend, guidance what is They are had you There in but can the every on get time. would little don't say. spectrum, the margins fight It's day, I we a the have is we something we that Again, compressed. But again,

Terry McEvoy

Thanks, Okay. guys.

Michael Scudder

you. Thank

Operator

from comes question SunTrust. Michael next of Young ahead. go The Please

Michael Young

Hey, C&I, to loans on, purchased kind along order touch were that fund to following question, increased quarter. that the Brad's mean of I this kind I of this wanted on borrowings you with quarter up in consumer

as be of down you can of process back come impact and deposits specifically loan quarter? talk of the margin are on attractive the then in, this those will kind characteristics about So come book there, some kind borrowings there if what purchased thought you that and just

Patrick Barrett

little off that, Michael. with Two maybe can pieces that and Mark the start with on I'll consumer the up purchases. to a bit the Pat. funding wrap Hey, of thinking it's

as borrowings our hitting are quarter cash municipal on a And we always are. with subject and do. obviously, cyclical our a So in flows their cash we low as deposits point year, of flows points commercial, generally at low they typically of, are frankly, where are first the

that, years We down some side, heard about swap floating And of the our and borrowing balance as asset have we'll three or also rate into on us sensitivity strategy, out. forward where to funding our swaps, periodically our talking you keep just production sheets swap longer-term swaps guys rate part enter to of we closer loan into mid-point. fixed borrowing usually two

will periodically those come on. so And

probably swap that betas one, rates. That balances those at for termed advantage to where $X will So billion get those we forward stuff on we from close to probably that. us funding is aggressively by significantly rates, take grow And our year-end the coming are ago. out on entered or two this for compete FHLB three also come low. to agreements have X.XX balances, there keeps FHLB longer And to than into we quarter, have lower is be deposits, of swap otherwise, will to which money, be which the of just more we and having could two-year keeps XX% years balance

Mark Sander

our purchase the purchased, for in it was of was modest I will activity because right amount did far early we that we this at we price XXXX We assets opportunity plan plan. the in high-quality assets As say annual consumer. in transactional thought. a the for as year, the in basis there certainly to

equity it you year. see was in loans, that increased QX this all about So $XX can million home category

purchase that mean, our was was really are loans in floating credit our I nice there there, of XXX equity score. I activity range. home all So the prime think average cycle

again, we price quality high assets for a - good thought. really So

Michael Young

timing, the kind full like fully saying a but improvement run the will in without And be this fine putting by be for XXXX comment of you are thanks. Okay, beginning is Delivering the by the the more the XXXX? point XXXX, it XQ improvement that on and year program will or of X% too Excellence implemented rate

Michael Scudder

will in would fully-loaded I be that - on will can't X. that say it we We way I X% believe January if will it you get there this say all that XXXX. well,

Michael Young

now And unchanged, understand it if XX I a a to sneak on credit kind of quarter? at and it's for little on just you this just range, right? remainder year, is extra I mid-XXs we're read one worst one following charge-off caution Okay. in, there. said the before or into last the of to XX, net guide performance I can that the that the credit Anything had maybe so

Michael Scudder

Michael, ask cut this, from a I bit our out you but end. you there little hate do to

was charge-off around was question Your guidance it?

Michael Young

basis Yeah, into so for else year, I range should year, that? and XX think the a we the anything mid-XXs was now there previously read for Is XX full points you're to it saying little full uptick. so

Michael Scudder

don't consider basis so of a change. a couple points believe, is don't I we material

rest And, to again, flow believe. year, ebb nuance normal we mid-XXs to consider we activity. of of XX but outsized from XX, credit in QX, and normalized going the So the kind the of

Michael Young

Okay, thanks.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Piper come go from of Nathan ahead. will Jaffray. Please Race question Next

Nathan Race

morning. good guys, Hey,

Michael Scudder

morning, Good Nate.

Nathan Race

curious, in I terms additional any deals Any clients additional long-term relationships apologize. would were off just they're or that these as color they're if any provide color charged the I if two of this on syndicated, just C&I appreciated? the late of got on be I'm color club industry bank, the But can additional well. in, are quarter. you if

Mark Sander

at the QX. didn't we end pace in of We of again, And magnitude saw point deterioration I year. sure. out, the reserves Sure, anticipate last want both and established the we for to the

was So the was - business. two not a in an it's and I'll the reflective weakness have that the industry. larger specifically, authorities. Rather just the equipment of referred issue say unique this states federal we in to of any heavy circumstance This not was

a And that you've this. years. So enough while business misbehave, disturbing, incredibly known you've that's been that say to I occasionally long you this see for have people even few people if in

we're on a proving banks, we in in with are - club assets some challenging a liquidation. was lent two where other larger deal The with other credit that very syndicated experienced

we'll So now thing remedies the was recognizing felt a to there, continue do. we but right pursue to loss

Nathan Race

remainder that - recognized And or include some those appreciate expense for in have Yeah, does of guide does XXXX? onetime or costs any the that onetime costs of just year, I that Mark. would not to does Delivering be clarify Excellence with going the that to color, along you this on that

Michael Scudder

choppy broke apologize. has very so connection I The Well, gotten up. here, you

whether think, the any onetime of it costs, our guide includes about were you year, asking I for expense right? the rest

Nathan Race

some in Right, onetime going reflected XXXX? or are if costs to those of be

Michael Scudder

Our not benefits guidance does include those be In rate with doesn't so same it costs. associated the that, include run ongoing the any any of incremental. onetime fashion, will

run longer-term costs being a not, all full likely And getting to our towards are a recognize full rate Mark as to of and - said, working least upfront able a guidance. our in We XXXX. If full at onetime rate in to XXXX. start expect run

Nathan Race

can the give And you see costs you. sense should us a year? of this magnitude we that to expect onetime those of Got

Michael Scudder

of we'll making hopefully for quarter Thanks to just phase that being accumulated more costs your with design the still and completed. the No. That's sure come, this that and - benefits. have from that of that part have is all finished patience. XX% late validated all implementation. We're of And a we've probably

Nathan Race

appreciate Understood. the guys. Thank all Understood. you. I color

Operator

with is [Operator question Instructions] The follow-up next ahead. from KBW. a go Please McGratty Chris

Christopher McGratty

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Patrick Barrett

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Christopher McGratty

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Patrick Barrett

Yeah, it's $XX million. of the

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Christopher McGratty

Got you. it. Thank

Patrick Barrett

Thanks.

Operator

the questions there this If at would like turn now are back time, for I Scudder to further Mr. closing no conference to comments. over

Michael Scudder

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Operator

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