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Bank Of America (BAC)

Participants
Lee McEntire Senior Vice President of Investor Relations
Brian Moynihan Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer
Paul Donofrio Chief Financial Officer
Glenn Schorr Evercore ISI
Gerard Cassidy RBC Capital Markets
Michael Mayo Wells Fargo Securities, LLC
John McDonald Autonomous Research LLP
Matthew O'Connor Deutsche Bank AG
Betsy Graseck Morgan Stanley
Steven Chubak Wolfe Research, LLC
James Mitchell Seaport Global Securities, LLC
Kenneth Usdin Jefferies LLC
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Operator

Good day, everyone, and welcome to the Bank of America First Quarter Earnings Announcement. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, you will have the opportunity to ask questions during the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Please note, today’s call is being recorded. And it’s now my pleasure to turn the conference over to Lee McEntire. ahead. go Please

Lee McEntire

you first Thank chance the to call review Good results. for Hopefully, our documents. quarter earnings a you've review our morning. release joining all to had

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during I just call of elements financial over remind Before forward-looking regarding to results. me we the that Paul, measures may make let to call the the you refer statements various Brian turn and and financial non-GAAP

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with it will Take over turn that, I it So to you, away. Brian.

Brian Moynihan

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to for continue quarter. rationalize customers, charge and recorded of the to in and will estate do million We real impairment an teammates our $XXX our that

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Paul Donofrio

morning, and and on Brian. Good Slide X starting Thanks, hello, I'm everyone. X together.

rather comparisons now, As the quarters included how $X.XX relative share, which we I've of crisis year-over-year. done will QX. majority growth, in offset earnings we $X.X higher compares income than than more The which this or prior health through my earned strong net reflect or to the progressing QX, In few billion, are the quarter of be to past billion, improvement $X.XX in per share $X.X per to expense. revenue

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above comfortably requirements. Our remained TLAC ratio our

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Okay.

Turning to wealth management.

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let's to go With Q&A. Okay. that,

Operator

with ahead. Schorr first we'll Instructions] Glenn go Please go [Operator to ISI. Evercore Today,

Glenn Schorr

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Paul Donofrio

Sure.

in quarter, second about right. terms the think I of you're So

of progress the down dependent revenue north $XX expenses expect taking of We just environment the make and on costs. we the COVID billion amount in

your our agree expenses, you. In terms about of comment to we ability manage with

expenses wage, years opening comments, dramatic in minimum Brian absorbed not in increase increases, to merit I investments, increases. all the noted we've increase managed for think improvement as we've and his volumes, processing now, digital in benefits,

been fund about our other are other we to in sort basically initiatives and – future. operational we've the using calls, of excellence talked investments So in as

create to operating best give time. talked we that's guidance extended I the expenses level clearly at And can think maybe goal maybe X% leverage a period think you. over about our of rising an is I We've here per year. probably

a pandemic a again a have and in lot with going all absent ins more lot this about obviously, But of out, no we we some here a than question that sticky we're variability of hoped. little middle they're bit a sitting there's outs, had to that. of And You quarter. the come had expenses been of COVID

a get expenses growth so of level revenue. level and to kind very back reasonable relative normal over the to of And we'll long-term a

Glenn Schorr

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Brian Moynihan

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Glenn Schorr

That's great. Thanks, Brian.

Operator

from Cassidy go next Please ahead. our Gerard with question take RBC. We'll

Your line open. is

Gerard Cassidy

Brian. morning, Good

Brian Moynihan

are Hey, How Gerard. you?

Gerard Cassidy

on give Good. – how in light fashion you the the announced stress that for proceed buffer course, your effect color on thinking repurchase with buy cushion got be the fits give capital Can you touched with Can okay? Did buyback, peers share construct you you new and billion $XX I being in do it green about they will us buyback? into back some which you you third assuming guys you how billion you after past to free the billion CCAR, that you're best you and Obviously, quarter, in $XX of about will to the your get $XX I'm June. the you us see guys. on the share think in program capital a goes today. stock

Brian Moynihan

Yes.

we'll for able quarter, going couple if the this which going rules expect in quarter. that's so was you'd to the question a One cushion, if the be bring which the of maintain over And that with then year this to substantial the to back up assuming a July, we'll a back the fourth into number held the cushion start to by we start new year, to not moved effect a We'll at over first and of this quarter average, come to to is substantial we're up the last is honestly to requirement stock go us bring down. were because is original about and we have that our X.X%. of I'll for cushion more do think CCAR time – our third and maintain a closer quarter, buy – all cushion repurchase and quarters our a filings, that things. last second us to move So look amount. the – We're for average the a fairly going quarter – a four quarter you goes suspension pace ability higher to

it the forward. in back continue – the to on and back saddle drive the get dividend. earnings company, And because we'll the power of also So work

And so get as us can. expect to right as we after soon

Gerard Cassidy

that? stronger much and is on look to – XXXX? day-one what from reserve reserve with economy talked your about levels. higher And of you that you you're the loss good. an color the CECL than some it where loan XXXX, January could that us you forecast number. And potential reserve day-one when considering than in share Paul, today gave us just day-one number outlook the you you you approach loan could you at loss And them January Can for the releases? further considerably own your you Very environment see Can was compare give when obviously on level,

Paul Donofrio

Sure.

an down the absent to remaining continue which come the reserves, in reserves quarters remain we a on deterioration as – the environment Just in to diminish. coming we expect, as don't continue will we believe uncertainties

of our upon terms view sources. of every portfolio of at versus day-one CECL, reserving that are future the we In moment, size sort the and based upon the and based of mix independent reserve quarter is our

you that, that recognize changed. as portfolio think to has you've got So about our

highest which rate card, know from of down some reserve example, XX% has as day-one. the For is you

about how you need think changed. the to really has mix So

call I was just to it, little a cushion we to We've do to have just our go that there reserve a mix work mistaken. basis of back. bit to done And You back shows get product significant, level can't I'll it going apply on and day-one I a that think think you're not which if still today's day-one. to XXX I'm points numbers,

Gerard Cassidy

Very good. Thank you.

Operator

Mike Our go next from question ahead. with Mayo Wells Please Fargo. is

Michael Mayo

them as that relates it views efficiency. can two help hoping have you opposing to I'm me I and Hi. reconcile

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like it's So best-in-class.

all noted. that is So progress technology

expenses see other hand, expenses, the I I at the for higher efficiency hear guidance and I ratio Slide the the XX, I see and and for look On year. this

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Brian Moynihan

and as And you Mike, short to the XX, pointed come helped you had fed under and rates posture off the you look But low-XXs, improvement finally it left-hand move stuff. a it at you NII more you So this environment of even page with up ratio funds out improve. our level across need businesses well the rate and comes of that rate up loans' infrastructure, some type XX%. the then and bankers had of know the you you very that our base. i.e. goes more go – those we branches frankly of and got if or and because will massive more don't and XX% and page in side floors out years you of spread the in that commercial quarter – little drop to the that spreads even the more on at after remember just usage the operating that that – due as know, expense to back this continues deposit expenses as the But our LIBOR you efficiency that of to attached stuff to well

low-XXs. should the think expect forma a I even on could see you you basis, So pro that

move expect move NII. pick the to see through up, the start then up the should rates more. you You And pick you'd back here even up it we year, if as to in move levels

Michael Mayo

you but are you're And picking disclose much how pandemic? you I lighten your during the now Or or… is investing, you up always up investing mean, don't how did spend?

Brian Moynihan

technology on Not the side.

Michael Mayo

Overall basis. pro forma

Brian Moynihan

we take go did this the numbers last of yes, and gave we – up, year I we three year advantage continue those because were would initiatives on side, frankly, change, a technology Mike, look, you and that. mean, to technology bit in

success years new We're or quarter, the salespeople. And organic, of XX, weren't that so markets top the three, on up now that. and off And that XX we then all ago. think in we're branches and five seeing driving four, cities moving from in opened this I two

to Now, the we going opportunities reposition the because that's from there. up you're continue us just to in weren't what the year But probably the program see people last efficiencies to lightened front. OpEx

have couldn't the And there were overstaffing for in of a because teammates rose, so with other, have had from and anchored employees. distancing working to more move that really we them to as support you the each circumstances. the home issues headcount few social high-risk exigencies of your When of

down. little you're up drift a higher. to it And ran now see starting we So

headcount of expenses. in invested we the number rate do year core our the bankers, But last at except in is the payback huge. commercial for we that we're again years, than So it reality incremental same did is because year probably, to and everything, going past this will drive

Michael Mayo

follow-up. And then last

quarter of on your well Just I made. expected. employees Is the a like bit Or those efforts it you've the you payments some that two? other all come you longer COVID-related are and of mean, the toward a of you've we expenses, with that like When or little off? maybe the that? special seems another than had do tail treated end think

Brian Moynihan

time somebody kids, why to down to as we your we're normalize it. your schools work client come in day started hire job blending of change. things you so we've can a can blending as "Teammates, situation you clients." tailored this during reopen home like said, pandemic. care home, at our and give do when will to that, and reopen, rise scores continue we Obviously, of and last – schools It's Well, we'll because year from our Obviously, the you take a the $XXX the That's that great for program.

this PPP, us start We of more it tail, those obviously, the program as a That it's we normalize Mike, to Obviously, XXX,XXX because again. That's modest time, we're But through will take extended can longer got shape thing. out. at be the forgiveness it one seeing done. second will we're the teammates but quarter. end volumes just

out that the the times. all see things like would But six since or months. operations of and or times testing come will the – we've came two happen, down things and as next it that cleaning right the extra three over PPP done, normalize meals And be number. and so longer we're four, guess the because more sort in teammates the and for you'll took I two we

XX,XXX we So billion peak, on it. At to originated we're support the – doing excuse loans in customers, or working do people change me, million, to so X.X our But programs, it's different good. the constant need what under X.X we had rules. four

X,XXX it work can back forgiveness, we in and about we've there Now, down. X,XXX and got

piece So piece it start the to after you'll piece. after next six I blend think see down months, over

Michael Mayo

All right. you. Thank

Operator

next comes Our with Research. go ahead. from John question Autonomous McDonald Please

John McDonald

Thanks.

the of I'm that total stuff we Sorry, some about took a announced numbers with on things ballpark kind might some discussing, COVID special – this $X the XXX remind quarter the the and that the of to which the of just expenses. it. you expenses size billion kind like might on I'm on at were the is you reasonable? be Is Brian, Paul, costs, expenses again, point trying rebase growth think what's then that? trying $XX.X you And before million us, like to of XX if kind year, COVID just off put at business and that?

Paul Donofrio

was quarter. would million think be flat, of quarter I approximately That to the last net the $XXX first COVID COVID roughly to by expenses expenses. of way, in

associated expenses with and and child lower of As ramped some pay But did that. offset we said, care unemployment new Brian and the we supplemental that up processing things for of PPP with ramp-up claims. like

Brian Moynihan

Yes.

just of, in the the timing John, things. is be of other wasn't to about $X the it's to is compensation first why in because sort mind year full here So going think billion, we told you the matters quarter reason simple-minded because higher higher on billion that be of we differences our $X.X and some it,

as down pushing So back possible. as as it we're fast you know, well

John McDonald

Yes.

rate the deployment deployment? then, Could of anymore. when or to deployment that what just assume automatic doesn't rate And you're liquidity just – disclosures, wanted Like the Paul, you. interest model talking follow-up, explain mentioned because of that? I you Okay. you moves about changed Thank

Paul Donofrio

assume of doesn't liquidity. automatic deployment model The

talking I about we're XXX down. up think and the XX

John McDonald

Yes. exactly. Yes, Yes.

Paul Donofrio

mean, some fourth quarter asset-sensitive in we quarter. I got little the bit first liquidity less a Yes. and in we the because deployed

you in that's when the higher rates obviously liquidity shock baseline. rate now, – you're up, a that And so anymore. at deploying And not

the sensitivity what Do kind of saying? into the So it I'm moved you baseline. see from

John McDonald

distributed? Okay. kind the Got you kind billion growth is evenly? Is was get the see fourth second-half that How that Or by loan coming And ramp NII of the the quarter. last on to $X based it. thing of that do it could you higher just back? happen

Paul Donofrio

pieces of Yes. fairly a here. Look, our careful guidance. been about moving There's lot we've

that of amortization got You've premium move around. can

got growth, predict. which You've loan hard is to

we want to to too about from get being be So we how specific about here there. careful

in and of we'll start see like though investing. the It that like growth have than upon two NII but days you on in back in we've mortgage got think necessarily We'd I hasn't have we half Again, up. quarter at come got pick was said, to down gone time. good up to and could some be there. over very $X about it growth invest it quarter, the loan because even yet, loan amortization flexibility the do faster that's can will terms securities, feel we to and loan we gave some to put first based guidance that in in into year. higher modest I rates the getting billion fourth expense not liquidity, the come what forward curve the see here. or got And least down. to that materializing We've We've slower some go the of growth, we

I So that's give can you. best the perspective

John McDonald

Okay. Fair enough. Thank you.

Operator

Bank. Please Matthew from go Deutsche comes question next with O'Connor ahead. our And

Matthew O'Connor

just on done. of Good morning. follow-up deployment want you've the I to liquidity that

think, we know hedged. this since mortgage-backed hedged, a I securities, deployed of of the of last aren't look said of into treasuries You that's most did portion most quarter small quarter. are deposits longer-term have been If what your of that you And a were securities. lot you but XXXX, added. I or the end back some the

these gone next conceptually, So I growth happened rates that to assets so Are not up, already this rates of like the back the quarters? kind of the Or you for is kind signaling in thinking of have guess last thought years? this think kind loan the of moves few come you is of big just quarter many going much? and couple what's at that locking

Paul Donofrio

want because I Well, everybody's of me what we clear sure kind done. have to that let up make about back

back all XXXX, are if the to you to billion, go down billion. the year-end are went XXXX way all and You $XX – loans deposits way back up $XXX

deploy some see deposit So we growth. to to created $XXX billion somewhere, more of going plus liquidity we're

$XXX of we cash to So on $XXX had and the Through of QX, the billion. the billion, up of up it are interest billion remarks, billion have we swaps. $XXX $XXX deploy about and But I $XXX securities rate treasuries, bought liquidity, are but as said to in end those billion equivalents we treasuries, somewhere.

$XXX cash our in terms to growth turn or $XXX can think being invest billion of ability billion for as of fund really loan you or So other the of uses.

we've capital, to So another. rates throughout We we interest liquidity, make we've customers balancing all been deliver what matter on balancing trying no Again, it's that can just capital, And earnings gone process. do whole our way this about make and to or one bets and want don't We for liquidity, happens. earnings. this to sure that think been as through tend pandemic. I we've

Matthew O'Connor

Okay. separately, in bit. about you prepared guys And then the mentioned just remarks, increasing limits little hold a

and where you that hold you trading the could to of detail a terms kind But if on back give where on referring little businesses. and in circle now you're of were more think the limits. just you concept are I

Paul Donofrio

look, mean, are, now. terms – about underwriting I the think, of consumer we back I sure. pre-pandemic – side, in on think to Yes, criteria, pre-pandemic if we you

a customers. I for storage and bit in they the commercial we're of I are there in than light light the loans of to hold terms particularly more of in still In little the industries company, mentality think we're pre-pandemic. of side, do global everywhere levels, but markets, loan affected our a And where the growth, that else, we're they carefully, relaxed have watching around some need of for what think back size on moving

otherwise the underwriting The bigger. real have So taken in than yes, standards. maybe company a bigger might we but positions is we're change few pre-pandemic, taking there's just no

liquidity. more have We

We have more capital.

of is all this think appropriate. we So

Matthew O'Connor

large that's trading loans, respect the not clarify. And with to just corporate to book,

Paul Donofrio

Yes, that's right. That's right.

Matthew O'Connor

Okay.

Brian Moynihan

has Just think wealth side, company's actually to it, the across the the consumer bit. going to just by P&L drive especially, loan business management growth, what's about so you little if grown business, look at a on also

down, of happened that down. And because the cards interesting but came consumer is what's big mortgage and thing Consumer got is is commercial down the You churn, business largely down. been Matt. to their as back Paul watch criteria, XX%. We've because year's now last Everybody unemployment pulled we this pulled to now – underlying reinstated, and so – back time went said.

million new cards units what's We So happened? one quarter. did of a

last XXX. XXX as and year's if fell back Going first you up. quarter, look low and month, moving the as it it's into up And It's already to change back stacking that. north on by

as the So it coming last at nine at you only that's opens yes, which catching of obviously, run and where for back from, in. the the look come system, so around X,XXX X,XXX – up is six, that's and basically sales months, eight was up if branch months, branches

will back So cards, production will that and on consumer down important. the higher the rate to slow side, are bodes slightly most on, environment. a continue kick prepayments up, at Mortgages which well obviously, on

affluent, market, You'll see seen then has actually mortgage you the they've – well people, banking, that to good of usage. and wealthy a lending business they've but line that bodes that the that's to all there. has grow. does middle And some a aspects, GWIM of GWIM and go job, done type done the on

our this America that year, have access capital through you economy expand to demand, it – some has usage to which And for at that to final companies X% come at, and of so see should is in team point, come the meet up. should Bank what that order

line in down to because seeing the just at cards like level. lower sell, business, there even aren't usage So card things you're the

being in of peaks you – as in engine, But size if terms think it'd if of about hold unemployment across that back in the have little have as our loan had to slowed crisis we confidence and right $XX production XX% back that turning what with think of be sheer company growth. in last about together flywheel the off, take good enable about down crank added getting we things So the that's all talking and company. things the that just billion think it, a start X%, flywheel But grew push demand loans. up crushed necessarily on we the the to and of that levels because you harder the a be final is quarter Paul having and of us the that then watch year, second you to just

so So the growth point, strong with because capacity commercial you transactional to have consumers. excess on tremendous Paul's is still and core deposits deposit the

Matthew O'Connor

you. That's Understood. helpful. Thank

Operator

Betsy Please Our with Morgan go ahead. next Stanley. question Graseck is from

Betsy Graseck

morning. Good Hi.

Brian Moynihan

Hi, Betsy.

Betsy Graseck

trim to Question, lean there's stage to I'm your very an didn't any RWAs allocation. potentially one go Brian, your only in in recently. I'm given maybe more really addition you've keep markets this just into have. so in in option you're discussed GSIBs the of to I tight. Is if capital do if And about markets. traditionally, GSIB the that that GSIB, thinking there were been capital to maybe down a and know all And the table you looking at kind on thought the the excess And number of you higher capital to that wondering that's up opportunities buybacks wondering on leaning liquidity you earlier?

Brian Moynihan

Yes.

not in. together. year. that might margin, know, actually things It at So all way the is there, may is the mutually that opportunity calculation, the the bucket we advantage team into and the where and the the capabilities – all But and move related go harder except they're up that things – exclusive to expect stock we increases from the and have were price the as where sheer you terms a of that in Betsy are you stock put go take just team based that the end away in to where at And straight Tom with by of business, at all, and and maintain two last business of Jimmy – size markets all risk way not we expanding are now. on and that

away the things, took step. synchronize the down if the just XX% you but of the in come to it that? a our of keep company's we size, grown to and the deposit have about some around has And size. do company. And idea with been due overall another do clients the is size of that even it would has it The the growing, kept why around and reason company it synergy is you why So growth we the third

the we've working we're told a We year-end, continue come obviously, Tom you first-quarter to team down. but to at us so and that. now shouldn't do to – we are activity, expect on than And were Tom – ideas stay little bigger

effective take ratios will Now, job But and has time of how so the the the here, opportunities there them, managed well. great for done see if out. team plays bit a those aren't risk we'll a it

done them more for quarter, we're work the going If you them with pandemic, in look job we're of great to and balance. at at throughout at the they've the And support and the it managing quarter, some capital. it for a look risk-reward results trading proud look they've last done,

Betsy Graseck

Thanks. Okay. SMBs and huge there discussions with the your I That's apps and players. only one I say also that but consumer great. you most corporate And you're consumer tedious separately, for comping have And of on skillset in because market a not then FinTech is for people it's everything have tedious with presence. doing digital

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that bringing you done the consumers clients you've for of and what in four beyond you given digital FinTech to to your any trying walls your message the So the clients? actually the get to thought of are have

Brian Moynihan

first the our that – job clients always why starts do this great it flows reason serve is with Well, a numbers. thing the the through do and and that to we

that this them digitization the that can of structure and types the give the a help fees drop consumer that due As huge of Mike cost significant guideposts. way – advantage, and dramatically to and we customers it frankly, over interact way up said the we and take way can the way due made our for activity at business in fee is efficiency this of earlier, consumer run which the years idea the we things. out all to terms And we over other that's

the Merrill all the as billion out, different of the And get growth, word kinds and Edge they've there's the goes we so and seen, we XXX tell in awards, terms on of agencies we list and ranking over everybody on now. win

quarter impact But the FinTech do. to side. a you even on year shows customers $X extra tell than will areas a $X.X And the for – to customers new years And digital side, million ability I we ability digital and be expenses impact last first consumer learned making so on is digitize ago XX we our from I money this fully flat The active are debate job and colleagues on your having six to of with – didn't for the to corporate of company on billion you on from and the half leave of to resources. more have think, so I'll the the the company. about great that job the in our our as do billion, a merits relative million

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and manage their it's to usage and ability their market the their things help personalization the investments. for and people the so payments mass And the and

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are these investments. major So

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Betsy Graseck

thanks. Okay,

Operator

Chubak Wolfe Please And Steven with ahead. go our next question from is Research.

Steven Chubak

Hi, good morning.

on and ask NII amortization. So a specific to really I the to wanted premium follow-up outlook

normal benefit increase size all hoping did we've – seen was you to this portfolio, of liquidity. given Now, MBS contemplated help and billion-dollar would in be growth we levels the Paul, if prepayment exit sheer rate the of amount what the in see in more the the of the XXXX. the excess I deployment premium revert benefit speeds for how is and much that could

Paul Donofrio

Sure.

driver gotten loan because that one. most in Two, be the a the about most amortization. me in grown, try I last quarter sort portfolio go what you couple amortization a Let as securities as so give could can't And to the the to, the be if and year come $X.X down it important lot portfolio out, and I That's back think dollars, One, point and billion. you the look the billion would about has perspectives. modest reduction first what driver important would to was the at you second would bigger. you size was premium of of just it just say growth has premium

guidance to there. that's enough QX. XXXX, it right million So I grown than more meaningful of Again, going we're guidance was going XQ few you. of that terms much. we've terms a But in maybe to few a to down be it's because in – gave $XXX in where not so really think, we go

Steven Chubak

a relief your Okay, just is balance as understood. But SLR, on quarter And I billion so, might excluding headroom for CETX on if just $XXX my what constraint sheet your in billion looking SLR expectations mitigating for or binding. sort that you follow-up, past in the the binding does maybe of take at sheet for become CETX just growth, target was growth the balance assume if haven't guys wanted to ratios, ask five CETX, look to the about saw our I are Fed on actions binding? before consider another fact capital. your balance SLR $XXX amount this additional If that potential I preparing sheet think still analysis ratio, quarter, And sheer at we growth our you – you of QE the like maybe XX.X% in how SLR know, you today. billion you $XXX becomes suggests a

Paul Donofrio

way a think. well, calculations Steven. you don't I glad just feel – are numbers to think than numbers bigger be out the right. there, take some your And you think but the are I'd through It's I I lot

Brian Moynihan

– we We've Yes. sheet work came and done up in that bigger number I terms with balance of a capacity.

Paul Donofrio

the the basis the basis maintained points On bigger much example, base it's times SRL, the for by or quarter. XXX XX points

of multiple grown it's so it's than bigger we've So multiple by the far from It's that. – lot. what

Steven Chubak

at like you recognize the to binding. of we're guess, what lens I relatively is In maybe shake is terms think, SLR to balance under have where order, out $XXX that's it like sheet. difference is ratio, constraint But the that if But a in relief access like SLR, this billion-plus access, more quarters – what there of the sub-six capacity grow. billion X% a going binding growth you most looks of just the in becomes where couple I Yes, have of I in more forma, the pro ratio gets becomes both. short $XXX

it, you what trying was little your that's I than bit given So I becomes would it at, constraints? CETX to more binding get mitigate to is, a look guess that

Brian Moynihan

away. to it's hundreds not the issue, but We've of managed the dollars capital the minimum billions ratios that's maintain I requirement, it's think just of –

So…

Steven Chubak

Yes.

Paul Donofrio

right? We're the regulatory minimum. to that's billion-ish So of X, X.X $XXX forma, April and down pro capacity

As But to buffer. the you math. we'd rough said, have that's a want

Steven Chubak

that's it much I later with offline enough. question. on, it taking But for anyway. very can in Fair thanks Lee take the so very Okay. framed you helpful how

Operator

ahead. the next with Please Seaport question go Jim Mitchell is Securities. And Global from

James Mitchell

good had a we on we maybe the in charge-offs. bit I Obviously, cadence Hey, first for charge-offs Should now do given Maybe Or XX-plus we quarter that the increase hit of fourth we Are are morning. think we're about card the balances, delinquencies book delinquency lows. card heading this the delinquencies? near have an almost back we toward to little of day expect, but trajectory down back just quarter. XXXs we how that? charge-offs, the how do view think, your of you in lower think a

Brian Moynihan

just X, because Jim, that turn page I of XXX will look from can went you it. you kind up to go back it mean, bit. to a We see summarized you at XXX, – If down chart.

produces is next can coming quarter's is page this – on obviously that You and see down. this the what back charge-offs right-hand of come side

the out, lower, the the you So just of provisioning the to charge-offs. and you delinquency. And the aside side think sea. it's but year and right also projected from migrate page to further going Leave that's come half have a actual as balance under left-hand from

you've frankly, if it But you right, that or takes comes got this hope, in for well it next you down six now. something anything, that much growth months lot it dynamic out quarters. of couple the like bodes it of delinquency because get the maybe just might So a getting and change longer would this

James Mitchell

Right.

lower I they for at were maybe start last you So very mean, year the that level balances grow least until levels the to is reason more think if look I so we is low takeaway? only of ask you keep now can charge-offs significantly that ratios than at that pre-COVID sort still

Brian Moynihan

balances But delinquency because it did then. probably go grow there'll no down as be

You the know, minor add amount delinquency through when might balances a comes from later that. is year it whatever to those it

as even denominator right? percentage the down will push go further balances near up term, effect the on So

James Mitchell

a And side. Okay. technology follow-up on the maybe

You out? give you merchant a more excitement out as small acquisition, thoughts on there guys of just you business. processing set I platform in your obviously, Axia that think What's level, involved? that your sort did you one, Can of Are guess, acquisitions the build do an up your opportunity building platform?

Brian Moynihan

million to wonderful we're it a years the XX can is very it it But and the $XXX why great it that's $XXX proud year People some has really a little position deal. and back capital, that in year why we and a last bought the our reason because to invest you of of the platform. or we that we back. – reasons go sold come venture wasn't But it joint one expense rate Remember, is whatever of The we plays run around year. that up moved million services. market to back by of brought it half us put got forget to key where of forward, about for whole across. that Raise half the two bought merchant ago. it's in history ago years a was. We Look, a company platform now

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James Mitchell

color. great That's Okay. Thanks, Brian.

Operator

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Kenneth Usdin

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Kenneth Usdin

Brian. Thanks,

Brian Moynihan

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Operator

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Brian Moynihan

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Operator

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