NYT New York Times

Harlan Toplitzky Vice President-Investor Relations
Meredith Kopit Levien President and Chief Executive Officer
Roland Caputo Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer
Alexia Quadrani JPMorgan
John Janedis Wolfe Research
John Belton Evercore ISI
Doug Arthur Huber Research Partners
Vasily Karasyov Cannonball Research
Kannan Venkateshwar Barclays
Craig Huber Huber Research Partners
Thomas Yeh Morgan Stanley
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Good morning, and welcome to The New York Times Company’s Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2020 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] Please note this event is being recorded. I’d now like to turn the conference over to Harlan Toplitzky, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Harlan Toplitzky

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Alexia Quadrani

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Meredith Kopit Levien

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Alexia Quadrani

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Meredith Kopit Levien

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Alexia Quadrani

you. Thank Great.

Meredith Kopit Levien

Thank you.


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John Janedis

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Meredith Kopit Levien


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Meredith Kopit Levien

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Roland Caputo

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John Janedis

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John Belton

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Roland Caputo

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John Belton


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Roland Caputo

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John Belton

Got it, thank you.

Roland Caputo

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is Arthur Research question from Please go next The from Partners. ahead. Huber Doug

Doug Arthur

Yes. Thanks, Meredith.

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Roland Caputo

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Doug Arthur

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Roland Caputo

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Doug Arthur

Thank you.

Roland Caputo



Research. is ahead. question from Vasily next Karasyov Please Cannonball The from go

Vasily Karasyov

talk to ask competition. Thank to the wanted you very just Good much. you about Meredith, maybe, I morning.

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Vasily Karasyov

much. very you Thank


is Kannan go ahead. Barclays. from Please question next from The Venkateshwar

Kannan Venkateshwar

earlier price Thank on Roland, just comments I stepping in in clarification of up terms guess made the you subscribers next year. some one of you. of the number

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Roland Caputo

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Kannan Venkateshwar

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Roland Caputo

certainly. Yes,

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Kannan Venkateshwar

Got a it. That lot. makes sense. Thanks


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Meredith Kopit Levien



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Thomas Yeh

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Harlan Toplitzky

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