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Hecla Mining (HL)

Participants
Michael Westerlund Vice President, IR
Phil Baker President and CEO
Lindsay Hall Senior Vice President and CFO
Larry Radford Senior Vice President, Operations
Dean McDonald Senior Vice President, Exploration
Heiko Ihle H.C. Wainwright
Laura Engel Stonegate Capital
Anthony Sorrentino Sorrentino Metals
Lucas Pipes B. Riley FBR
John Tumazos John Tumazos Very Independent Research
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Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the First Quarter 2018 Hecla Mining Company Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn the conference over to your host Vice President of Investor Relations, Mr. Mike Westerlund. Sir, you may begin.

Michael Westerlund

Thank you, Operator. you and us operations thank quarter Hecla’s and financial XXXX results everyone for for joining first Welcome conference call.

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Phil Baker

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and our for quarter and into incorporating first in second the do half in cost the ounce taking the the will the result lower year. a per the metals the assets of prices that we that of we’ve base for company seen these guidance account as we’ll higher Hecla, So throughput revise

now to call of over So I’ll the performance. for our review pass Lindsay financial

Lindsay Hall

Phil. Thanks

quarter first the pleased really results. financial with are We

same gross our profit consistent and million to over $X.X of XXXX. which while in the all XXXX, net sales was million due $XX.X period We XX% cost income for $X.X of quarter reported in $XXX.X mines. of some increased Our revenue results was million from sales lower for all with good less so of of very product line than million, revenue the

quarter-over-quarter. and the Cash, so sustaining all difference ounce XXXX after amount in different regime and non-cash majority XX recall from cash tax under same equivalents to due XXXX. quarter industry $XX byproduct reported the and $X.XX favorable for cost The million recovery byproduct which accounts Quebec in from United we pricing variance in for and about period credits cash we’re net Ressources You’ll lead tax proceeds quarter per of States of quarter in loan zinc the of of improved the $XXX investments XXX byproduct negative the included cost totaled $X.XX booked most to in a the income improved to leading also ended the the XX silver credits income higher this short-term an million our in million. of Companywide March the that resulting after margins. for some

So the pending portion revolver with cash the in transaction. finance shape good to we’re the Klondex of the undrawn cash and

normal first the from X, operations quarter $XX.X to The that flow was impacted of provided payment resulting made first negatively April hedging These timing the from Slide this payments the losses the XX% compensation. in late right of mining to Last XX Unrealized do about from flow in mines cash year flow of than it flows inventory actual Creek year well items. lower million, be. Turning and the items our one-time foreign shipping. nothing include led coming exchange cash incentive higher our we to operating the cash several of we we at Green’s to March cash thought XXXX was base due made have variance. of operating with the where awaiting in should the million nonoperational and product items hedging themselves. cash programs The difference taxes quarter basically $X.X due higher deferred capital working metals offset

$X.X than strike $X.X this greater full million we year given our these addition this fund the we work increasing difference by plus account for provided cash $X.X the million it our reserves year’s cost resources, Lucky connection at last or to on Adding higher they cash quarter we higher pending Friday exploration compared operating this activities of was suspension incurred In last have a together of for cost to with million the Also of year. quarter our items put acquisition. in costs and in quarter’s.

operations at gold of diversified sales cash to continued margins be was silver margin deliver supplier $XX.XX $XXX combined at Slide you can Turning silver per continues we as X, X, Creek expect. quarter. lead the Slide sales or stream ounce and Green and per in gold revenue was XXX% first highest zinc gold about the at On XX% through the industry silver revenue of of the you silver cash The or XX%, to with and XX%, maintain ounce. would XX%. dominance of to a see one

in in So performing and much and margins liquidity well, byproduct cash costs costs operations strong. all the are lower sustaining and are summary, credits are after

to We’re as pass XXXX call our optimistic about will Klondex Larry the we and to the acquisition the now turn I on beyond operations. the talk integration for potential the mines. and Nevada attention to about of

Larry Radford

offsetting of had was higher The On can XXXX same lower as Creek about Slide production you quarter. XX, the Lindsay. excellent XX% quarter silver first grade. Green Thanks throughput see another the with

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Dean McDonald

Thanks Larry.

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Phil Baker

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that - with we not open why line So the operator questions. for

Operator

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Heiko Ihle

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Phil Baker

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Heiko Ihle

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Phil Baker

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Operator

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Laura Engel

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Phil Baker

is meeting. few There the there schedule a though to another the course been attempt attempt meeting schedule has meeting There’s an of next the in to actually weeks. is another recently

about Larry to get As that? a add up it’s thing and far as running. anything six month to the process restart to

Larry Radford

of recall good and The It’s shape. good is that mine a process take just have it done really will job staffs condition. salaried retraining in time. keeping good The in a

Laura Engel

update And one, Montanore then at Creek? timing work the Rock the development last of on and just one any and permitting

Phil Baker

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Operator

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Anthony Sorrentino

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Phil Baker

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Anthony Sorrentino

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Phil Baker

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Operator

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Phil Baker

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Larry Radford

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Phil Baker

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Operator

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Lucas Pipes

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Phil Baker

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my else things in the or strike me. Larry amplify those that those. mind are those So what

Larry Radford

I found really me this strength for things stand you to out highlight to list suggest. opportunities and of as out that

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Lucas Pipes

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Phil Baker

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Operator

And Independent our next question Tumazos Research. John from Very Tumazos John comes from

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John Tumazos

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Phil Baker

up it we going that what’s make about we prior. to see push we’ll that we’ve Well John not need continue make that your indicated further even find had more of beyond to have but until some increase at internally a that that that what the put further. When was had to we more anything been where increases the mill overcapacity be into happening throughput what that to and mill and declining will it this we’re or able all is able certainly the push we But and to life true sense. the that to see already capital mine you we’re that I the realize extent was recovery we’re that to we throughput, we filling it because to and as get it investment we’ve than where I to a to appreciate Larry make indicated. clearly think recognition that believe capital you that’s certain lot really that different at to Casa mine mine debate increase overcapacity been we was point going makes and sense have going beyond do exactly what to we’re add? do to to order in

Larry Radford

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on a solicit think throughput at a tons We have permit X.X necessary. obviously Just limit higher we it million year. if a can it’s

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Operator

session. to Phil Baker. that remarks for Mr. Q&A over any And the would I like turn concludes back closing you. call to now Thank today’s

Phil Baker

Okay, thanks very much. Appreciate everyone being on the call.

feel As and usual myself Thanks or to call free very give have if safe there’s a a Mike Westerlund day. any much. good questions please

Operator

you. conclude Thank and program. this the gentlemen Ladies does

disconnect. You have day. wonderful Everyone may all a