Aemetis (AMTX)

Todd Waltz EVP, CFO & Secretary
Eric McAfee Co-Founder, Executive Chairman, CEO & President
Edward Woo Ascendiant Capital Markets
Shane Martin Stonegate Capital Partners
Tom Welch Ameriprise
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Aemetis Fourth Quarter 2019 Earnings Review Conference Call. [Operator Instructions].

As a reminder, today's conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Mr. Todd Waltz, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer of Aemetis, Inc. Mr. sir. begin, may you Waltz,

Todd Waltz

corporate Thank the earnings you, Earnings website Fourth XXXX available or press release, the aemetis.com and review the Exchange for Commission, homepage. calls. Welcome Conference Call. This to recent updated press Review earnings our and review Aemetis filing We with to Securities aemetis.com previous Quarter releases today's Jim. on presentation, conference suggest at is download visiting presentation

following the statement. today, I'd like we Before our read begin discussion to disclosure

appear in today's to performance, statements, respect with forward-looking and During statements conjunction from uncertainties, differ in the be that are without including, the made filings. statements These be and forward-looking with plan. and must may made. with call, involve making our we'll all considered execution cautioned limitation, Investors statements business that of to the expectations SEC disclosures plans, risks respect that materially financing activities this statements warnings stock our call our on future events and future and cautionary opportunities

additional the charge. and posted Commission filings company and company's our from please to website For Exchange on without are Securities available refer information, the

XX, earnings of discussion for of to financial will Our call a measures which release ended directly comparable A available XXXX, include most December to is included the this a our as the the is supplement results review in GAAP. on on on measures based our non-GAAP reconciliation non-GAAP measures on website. GAAP quarter

on tax intangible expense, depreciation litigation such to compensation contingency extent as expense, is and amortization deducted defined plus income accretion in EBITDA calculating expense, loss income, expense, loss net net the other expense. expense, on income loss or share-based and interest Adjusted extinguishment,

gross ethanol XX, the at fourth results was XX, I'd ended fourth per the for gallon increasing slightly Now Revenues sales to increased a $X.X $XX.X to to of profit X December X compared to during The market of $XX.X a for ended $X.XX India the ended of same were review the of December $X.X in XXXX. cost XXXX, period prices million $X.XX for with the rose gallon gross months per December XX, loss XXXX. $X.XX improvement X million was profit plant, quarter during months attributable XXXX, along XXXX during in $X.XX delivered the during periods. for corn financial quarter the to from to Gross respective of from XXXX. for the compared the the XXXX, where same quarter the million fourth million months like

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Profits in of of at quarter the income the $X.X tax negligible during quarter an income tax expense of XXXX. XXXX India plant to resulted during fourth expense compared the fourth million

of attributable $XXX,XXX $X.X an of Aemetis to XXXX $XX.X a million interest million additional total $XX.X for $XXX,XXX for net loss fourth $X.X Net for net million loss a of quarter for to fourth with noncontrolling the loss to to of million. of noncontrolling was attributable total the an XXXX, Aemetis to net interest with quarter attributable attributable a compared additional loss

to quarter the $XXX,XXX of Cash quarter XXXX million of the fourth compared of $X.X end was XXXX. fourth of at the end at the

the same XX during XXXX, ended India. primarily December was sales the XXXX. for revenue of XXXX. the sales profit to million biodiesel to increases for XX review XX, million and $X.X increased attributable the significantly XXXX, the XX in XXXX. to production compared was in months ended Now increased quantity glycerin biodiesel Gross months period to period $XX.X I'd results higher million the $XXX.X in like from for months financial Gross XX% Revenue ended profit in the same margin XX, and XX, increase $XXX The India. million compared attributable in December to in and for to increase December

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$XX.X in an million was to for XX $X.X loss period loss the XX, of million same compared XXXX, operating XXXX. Operating for the December months ended

interest, resulted of expense the months tax Aemetis loss XXXX at of year noncontrolling attributable to income net in $XX.X compared period loss interest net same million during for during expense a million noncontrolling ended for of was of Net XX an to total XXXX. the $X.X XXXX, tax $X.X a plant Profits attributable loss to during Aemetis additional India attributable $X.X XXXX, in compared the additional million million $XX.X million loss to $XX.X a million. of an to with XX, for to total attributable $XX.X with the negligible net an December income million

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Eric McAfee

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from Now let's take a Jim? few call our participants. questions


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Edward Woo

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Eric McAfee

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Edward Woo

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Eric McAfee

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line our at next of We'll Shane Stonegate. from Martin take question the

Shane Martin

kind guys any overall have and guys kind if India -- it's you coronavirus the demand are also any give by of any? I an Just kind thus both as of all, can Can at guys there's is of of you But in far, that as concerned. been to kind operational if disruptions if hampered, innings seeing? of terms color operations how far early know India me as you impact

Eric McAfee

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Shane Martin

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Eric McAfee

going operate staff very else. all and India a everything overhead, estimate legal to to is million $X and for accounting I'm in. less in than inexpensive and country

Shane Martin

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Eric McAfee

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Shane Martin

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Eric McAfee

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Tom Welch

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Eric McAfee

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Tom Welch

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Eric McAfee

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Tom Welch

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Eric McAfee

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Tom Welch

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Eric McAfee

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Unidentified Analyst

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Eric McAfee

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Eric McAfee

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Eric McAfee

Great. soon. you, Thank to you, Maximo. Talk


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