Cedar Realty Trust (CDR)

Jennifer Bitterman Senior Vice President of Corporate & Portfolio Management
Bruce Schanzer Chief Executive Officer
Robin Zeigler Chief Operating Officer
Philip Mays Chief Financial Officer
Todd Thomas KeyBanc Capital Markets
RJ Milligan Raymond James
Floris Van Dijkum Compass Point
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Welcome to the First Quarter 2021 Cedar Realty Trust Earnings Conference Call.

As a reminder this conference is being recorded. At this time, all audience lines have been placed on mute.

We will conduct a question-and-answer session following the formal presentation. I will now turn the call over to Jennifer Bitterman. proceed. Please

Jennifer Bitterman

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Bruce Schanzer

for Jennifer, and XXXX thank us Thank Quarter you Cedar you joining Trust the First all Realty for Earnings Call.

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Robin Zeigler

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Philip Mays

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line Capital the of is KeyBanc your Our question. coming with first from Todd Please with Thomas proceed question Markets.

Todd Thomas

is of Northeast Heights, Good to interest the been proceeds the questions by asset? Thanks. and Cedar Cedar's congrats I'm at available are A joint all the XX% that Hi. limited capital afternoon. the Cedar on you've at while. contribution I a And a commitment venture to working on or general promotes any partner? there But curious, of couple way. know little to as for

Bruce Schanzer

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Todd Thomas

or partners just to is at redevelopment there rights timing? us you And update future of for specific a future to are participate And venture, phases all Okay. asset? phases single-asset also the and this in the on this any can the project,

Bruce Schanzer


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Robin Zeigler


alluded to. say DGS but four it it's the suffice the I as can or the year thought process, about not break as certain we when headquarters is will the in with phases, The of And subsequent timing XXX% next in are Heights first so. that being the to So entirety Northeast to in would phase. Bruce phases be ground,

Todd Thomas

trough? activity, you of with in tenant I you rate That's discussed a of occupancy the Okay. operations. a up might you helpful. all and here, during quarter. to the Kroger Are you'd expect to Robin, begin in Do where and closures you I point sticking All for sense have climb to these portfolio mean, see the occupancy Then to guess, rate right. lease lot the leasing terms when pick higher? starting see

Robin Zeigler


from in pull always the that of off -- pickup out my retail activity folks' crystal I we ball of activity of over So dust that have transaction people brush pandemic kind just things happening, as a couple watch on seen kind But of general, hesitate frame. last and in in on to as this. that's -- months, like from we a been desks the the off kind dust during fruit and time the was low-hanging sitting the

And people activity. And about new now stores, see that way more we more talking are looking deals. transaction opening are momentum so, new and to starting at

kind go as seeing, of as just an leaves to both reading within uptick a from see revenue economy, that. expecting in -- of, perspective are what tea more quarters, from we result we're occupancy the seeing, a coming a well we theater the forward So and macro of as of more the in as

Bruce Schanzer

on the Todd, And and -- would is of intentional is it, associated just Cedar's that negative expand a significant appreciate statistic statistically, the projects. to function redevelopment that occupancy is here that, with just with just that's a important I there thing percentage to vacancy the interject

to closer at alone, the -- basis XXX vacancy. fingertips. basis at that so, And statistic I points of But points at vacancy, don't probably my least have least of XXX

drive the of a And opportunity opportunity clearly is that think part recognizing so, redevelopment about whole thing the statistic to that we appreciate. occupancy, important an baked to again into when is

Todd Thomas

Okay. Thanks helpful.

Robin Zeigler

the prepared has at redevelopment occupancy example, of solidify then, Bruce for the XX.X%. leased I the that But numbers is portfolio And mentioned to in just an remarks. gave while portfolio, XX%, my it same-store

that's stabilized development and spread properties those projects up that and portfolio will well. as and naturally Where those the about. as that bring get then actualized So he occupancy the talking was are development that -- the

Todd Thomas

the while are And expected the to term occupancy projects Okay. motion? in in these fall near is redevelopment further,

Robin Zeigler

And little much the is see Kmart projects majority little be more. the more a handled been and occupancy couple movement Yorktowne we bit of in for There small Ollie's it a made there. by so we're looking a the up of might couple bit you're But see and essentially fully are might stabilized. up we at. box we There's Plaza the moving a and get before more of Norwood. shops There leased large, around has of number that it already for won't where Valley

Todd Thomas

Thank Okay. All right. you

Bruce Schanzer

Thanks, Todd.


Thank you.

next is question the Baird proceed Please Our from question. RJ Milligan coming your of with line [ph]. with

RJ Milligan

Hey. that's It's Raymond James, all right. but

your seeing color on appreciate you there are on terms if rates. getting some I'm what give just from I First, lenders. and curious NAV could cap rates guys comparable out you're cap comments in you or the of transactions

Bruce Schanzer


rate So, in the blended cap my again, the X.X%. was prepared that five into as I mentioned remarks, on assets we contributed our financing secured

been We're the pronounced. they're grocery-anchored that are now. the assets getting assets. really transaction equity markets cap pricing the have correction, kind very and private Northeast of sale as our of that example, has grocery-anchored types assets types And be for would in firms, much Mid-Atlantic sort asset rates and quality terms feedback that the some one getting from of our in amount there that these happy recovery these right fair of remarkable the expected in of words, for in of footprint footprint they're activity of than much, lower market a seeing are in other We to that in own of getting being the

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that So rates in the are footprint. grocery-anchored regularly pretty and very in to we're again, Xs for something that assets Mid-Atlantic Cedar seeing cap similar the Northeast

R.J. Milligan

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Bruce Schanzer



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Floris Van Dijkum

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Bruce Schanzer

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Floris Van Dijkum

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Bruce Schanzer

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Floris Van Dijkum

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Bruce Schanzer

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