CMCL Caledonia Mining

Camilla Horsfall Vice President of Investor Relations
Steven Curtis Chief Executive Officer
Mark Learmonth Chief Financial Officer
Maurice Mason Vice President of Corporate Development
Dana Roets Chief Operating Officer
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Camilla Horsfall

Hello, everybody. Welcome to our Q2 results Call for shareholders.

So, on the call from Caledonia, you've got Steven Curtis, our CEO; Mark Learmonth, our CFO; Dana Roets, our COO; Maurice Mason, our Vice President of Corporate Development; and then myself, Camilla Horsfall, Vice President of Investor Relations.

So, if you have any questions, then please just raise your hand at the end of the presentation and I can unmute you or you can just write the question in the Q&A box, okay.

So, I'm now in a pass you over to Steve and Mark, who can talk you through the presentation.

Steven Curtis

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quickly Mark. We presentation, I'll slides open up and off questions. have to and Mark hand it and let kick starting which will then it me a And by then go we will we'll to through, over initially the flick

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Mark Learmonth

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is months for dividends. get of to We as because a The paid this April anomaly was dividend we the year of previous first ordinarily back The sense declared which So, of $X.XXX, to early very and in more the you in declared have XX. Last year and dividend declared and and six arcane i.e., to dividend better XXXX here. regulatory to year, May and months declared quarter, at coronavirus. year first with this months, three of the six obscure go year the looks happening we reason. that The last at would that's reason for year after declared look if months we months was the we six be we to what six June is Steve slide. than would an quite January. some on that deferred six the half actually very last the the in we one declared right there July to end that end after in have declared just the one ordinarily April, it in

in we had XXXX So dividends. only in two had dividends in we XXXX terms the of whereas three dividend declaration,

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few in dividend there's on So, gold the were XXXX. X.X%. price since nearly October That's we adverse in a to probably of price up since about gone increase the XX% ago. a And days movement dividend the quarterly our a share reacted yield

bodies just tons to in and in any record at what milled was quarter that That information Shaft ore. tons produced development and milled here and Shaft see hoisting the Central to production. any is moment some for itself all. that is it's four the it's mentioned now milled the and -- two, the to hoisting but so is quarter tons recovery. that get on two can already at here the pressure doing demonstrates relieves the in the production a focus shaft the about encapsulate a produced record What waste for that waste driver grade quarter you up then incremental is number and ounces quarter is contributing now quarter and on Turning ounces connected The ore for with the Steve's Central

Central that July's start So, less it's of already hoisting bearing the to ounces for which mentioned, we'd achieving And of ounces, ounces than XX,XXX X just on if -- gold a substantial X,XXX extrapolate our Steve's towards was you end by material again ounces the progress again so already ounces target making continued X,XXX contribution. year. the it's quarter, shows X,XXX as production actually expect Shaft a year, but

that other to million combination a quarter but at than afraid the having electricity, gold that's increased by and expected the in of or but revenue commissioned later, the that's to because of expected perhaps profit not and account; Depreciation looking that royalty and about in higher the for Central price. higher Just $XX for than later. X%. about bit million the quarter Shaft, lower more come The and it. were I'm up same as little costs, the loss even start got depreciating on production costs at I'll to production $X a we've slightly general stays Production area has

about million. So, that $X increase would about charge depreciation annual to $X million the from

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us encourage we was produce net in we also of $X.X foreign You'll a and $X.X gain a million That exchange net see income net that gold. income, more other grant had government of to million. last year had to

comparable because the XXXX. So, we the million quarter, of loss in -- non-operating stopped. pretty this a addition, impaired Then we had But income had asset. we $X much exchange Glen Zimbabwe a the net the in in foreign in Hume dollar of has devaluation rate

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is contribution $X.X million a So, impairment. that

expense, before a a overall So quarter There's effect second million tax impairment effective the that. no the the XXXX but tax $X.X of charge corresponding and and tax $X.X the quarter the aggregate tax -- $X.X income, year largely about effective million. no there impairment rate whereas to in down XX% $X.X that's $X we because $X.X million million we charge. million reduced profit had PBT, offset Tax had -- over against why just tax second to quarter for the was on was the this in goes from that's million

So, the remained expense tax unchanged.

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turning production costs. Just to

was can was that, said, see much I everything you expected electricity. as as only wasn't we area Here The pretty it expected. where as

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solar spending year. the now January, in February kick the project will until from really on probably So, next

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Steven Curtis

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Mark Learmonth

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Steven Curtis

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Mark Learmonth

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Steven Curtis

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Mark Learmonth

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Steven Curtis

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Steven Curtis

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Mark Learmonth

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Steven Curtis

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Mark Learmonth

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Maurice Mason

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Mark Learmonth

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Dana Roets

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Steven Curtis

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Dana Roets

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Steven Curtis

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Dana Roets

That's correct, yes.

Steven Curtis


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Maurice Mason

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Mark Learmonth

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Maurice Mason

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Dana Roets

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Maurice Mason

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Mark Learmonth

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Maurice Mason

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Mark Learmonth


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Dana Roets

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have So, improved tremendously. that will situation

Steven Curtis

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Mark Learmonth

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it the So the think solar about is share NPV out enhancement of per right? project that Maurice, X%, I was coming

Maurice Mason

share that's On an NPV correct. basis, enhancement per yes,

Mark Learmonth

would return project rate internal wouldn't so, the of the been sort of XX%, have on at it? And

Maurice Mason

was in it XX%. Yes, the low

Mark Learmonth

and made doing -- Well, the to -- did because just but The or move completely. it's in defensive to XX%s. because makes us money. it that primarily the give it collapses money us makes we not was it protection it grid event look, a protect in it it partial done low money, We're it's

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Dana Roets

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Mark Learmonth

export two credit Offhand in Howards got actual moment, statements. XXXX. It's could is tell you if find in was the the what in was remember. Howard the and financial statements financial amount can't Maurice, asking quarter those I disclosed a what you XXXX.

Maurice Mason

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Mark Learmonth

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Camilla Horsfall

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Maurice Mason


Unidentified Analyst

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Camilla Horsfall

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Camilla Horsfall

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Steven Curtis

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Camilla Horsfall

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Camilla Horsfall

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Maurice Mason

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