ATRO Astronics

Deborah Pawlowski IR
Pete Gundermann President and CEO
Dave Burney CFO
George Godfrey C.L. King & Associates
Ken Herbert Canaccord
Michael Ciarmoli SunTrust
Jon Tanwanteng CJS Securities
Dick Ryan Dougherty & Company
Mike Wallace White Pine Capital
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Greetings and welcome to Astronics Corporation Fourth Quarter and Full-Year 2018 Financial Results. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Deborah Pawlowski, Investor Relations for Astronics Corporation.

Deborah Pawlowski

morning, good and Dana; everyone. Thanks, your We here us certainly appreciate today. joining and Pete on Dave Gundermann, got CEO; the our Officer I've Financial President and Chief Burney, call. our

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Pete Gundermann

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Dave Burney

cash back operations talking Pete flow sale strong generating the where in just strong the flow Okay. million the business year big of $XXX February, is million end we us one was up of the that quarter, Thanks. about the cash to but on while million, down in we certainly year-to-date the semi track quarter from going from for we've finished generation. waiting flow be year that to that flow our very operations should back $XX of had million, was for think a fourth for $XX about to us which a brought Yes, cash about at in debt $XXX event about the end last and Outstanding cash at to of terms been of a we very get year. from

And plus basis to cash pre-tax a by XXX the were I end strong again right $XXX million we year Our And on of have first the bit our when at we conclude We quarter about little which further I $XXX a of from we LIBOR reduce be rate could load sale, quarter, have proceeds senior business about current the sale million now. facility. use based million debt down our the we to that have our credit as facility to go from $XXX of adjusted to trailing lower expect expect down credit points. about first $XXX semiconductor that as is do borrowing revolver the the on flow million expect And somewhat senior on operations. our another available EBITDA. four-quarter

the That there's business. they the segment was So the on do XX% been had we when XX% ready XX% off the growing in have buy be but as authorization deployment if the Aerospace opportunity balance which in because has continued shares to the was the fund a sales had, two was back somebody know focused little will flexibility one other will customers growth the Pete, year-to-date of about to based to full our several in I continue again. acquisitions. segment, question, on our year that about years sales. and also capital all We sheet other of one could bit getting structure we be another to year: and speak you're capital present and plenty on, had our a and I growth our be our Aerospace for We of focus to ask last if exercise it to that continues measured right against opportunities the over

Pete Gundermann

you. Thank I'm done coughing.

December, are today. with in the at that midpoint to XXXX, $XXX million would for issued million we growth and forecast for represent guidance at $XXX of sticking that X% look we the switching Aerospace XXXX, So initial

guidance have that Test $XX initiating themselves are the of $XX up million XXXX. in to now We aligned million shoes

from to at If guidance that for XXXX. would semiconductor the represent back you out midpoint XXXX were that we sold base, XX% growth proceeds the about

So guidance, we looking bottom $XXX might XXXX. curious a of of consolidated and don't about million; revenue want for to midpoint We consolidated, million that range and we're talk growth. about couple things at I $XXX range, be a again, thinking issue about that guidance at as the line of into you do but move about of XXXX seeing be X% we'd be

increased potential our wild a from The first the this I That's technical guess, possible for CFO for XXXX $XX about is in the recently based he's on to assumptions of set million and whole but from subject. learned Company cost. new tariff million these in time expense in talk about time about tariff incremental compared We term to $X.X talking of XXXX. on us a my

be our three point. number is best Armstrong, there had operating progress more other is million words $XX things hidden businesses, with could that could through to-date. combined progress there $XX.X production, of are and to-date, about spend but troubled that's lot quarters. way, So three at our CCC, third guess could the $XX.X the of this losses talking but tariffs million kind happy to few we're And not of, we last at. aware could not quarter about looking of we're a we happen, AeroSat, A suppliers million of In tariffs go year the resource the

more a loss quarter. been operating quarters, million $X.X was than three million, we've about quarter So little per million. $X through averaging $X Fourth

that. to predictability which but be we're of total we some think million quite from should settle where million, million, a our think $XX would see as XXXX better be things going we bit to down starting would obviously $XX annualized do out. million, we're $X.X $XX to than So

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happen happen? companies substantially how one to will is that uptick up So, going believe dealing our neighborhood future dealing you're XXXX with collectively that's upside about XXXX. those We by be they're and cutout. a is obviously, revenues plan revenue. They Well, for with to XX at that, million the in somewhere thing of in that you're in on in million, going three XX but year, potential substantial there's when to in going a firm the ended

So, that's seeing operating of that to of going the going manageable but are we year. year a or and loss get that range, by end critical us think second of that ramps to bunch seeing this into things, half for be it's critical we're be the to some start

that at to are with is losses We we demand, we reason with is We So not market. it. our opportunities businesses we are and there these are advantageous we're and customers, part the operate why think there offerings some have competitive desired see some think inherent the sticking by that indefinitely. That's and in goal of it? substantial sticking

profitable to them we like to break other that. most to them even we members got contributing make Our Company can goal is businesses. of just before the do get But

obviously So, forward. to attention our this calls as to that goal, and to on going progress, continues continue will draw be needed think make we we it and like

fair total of semi for and pretty professional engineers much number the all we're been the in that did, now, it has Aerospace we to managers, program XX% strong business looking a are test went pretty never better we We us, situated now and our that than So stand that with them to think right our think Advantest. business time drove it's or and the we good XXXX. for good is think business, we're year good excited. another a which was move it's We our forward employees A&D think and employees business, good a that for our XX-plus on people its of it's move, and think of is own,

So think open up Dana, questions. with that, it for I we'll


[Operator C.L. from Instructions] & Godfrey George the with Please line comes proceed your King with question Our of question. first Associates.

George Godfrey

in on on the Pete, And you the sell is need on up each for on product what what just buying ramp light have their to ramp product? holding shed what partners customer or do your that about fulfill order Thanks. product, can have obligations you up to one? I the sell by goes talk you Maybe of to holds then to have three how be that able businesses. but you mean do is, to could, the revenue ready, you each the three and businesses, if you

Pete Gundermann

more get a Sure, there move for with different from struggling CCC, we program development technology that might a pretty they've walk so high it profile customer or make less each to that like the Kuehn, the We year the over doubling Armstrong, for then the pretty of struggled milestone From and execution functional -- answers West program and major -- both out, proven the is for away engineering George, our is in into work little big feel industry I and and it's to to company named core involved delivered, it from it a at think, they've and And and revenue looking good Maybe bit of that than to core Day slightest it to been successful make we done. and merged key and and is they've get that part we're really I'll given are not a be get and you get investment incur those those want a you need a more CCC a option well question. expectation our had this met different with course customer skills the the to the with company in work. a foremost. there this revenues running of it. really good the that's market at this standpoint, Mike of We in integrating of And businesses smaller Armstrong the were them we first East, based did company, certification successful done would, than Telefonix, was that greater even the back and and is a CCC bought December, guy and Investor company a a program. their at pretty they business. three. who's we've deal, issue substantially job a that the company since mightily to on is we thought forth

to So, best it's right been and and in of opportunities now actually of three those bigger find a punch is capabilities, terms kind shape of risk of in up they're apply opportunity. the the low weaknesses, the under strengthening and building competency to say new to market a one-two and out Armstrong a going well way. I'd

came Coast, have be about on with stuck were and company, the about instead antenna line AeroSat I we in Transoceanic, might prominently so. start is different primarily of not talking they if up seems WiFi smaller ago or And that program program, with with been programs, It's tail tail for Transoceanic jets access. tail a partnership partnered bigger of a antenna of to companies we that for about today a to three two, and for us then call year-and-a-half it a we and East That services an now the troubled year-and-a-half we've that on So, or most basically bring sits list. businesses mount. group type leaves out talk the business AeroSat starting the a on few mount this a discussion at would to life

doing of into the eventually, a into turned teaming apart I months, and is months, they're off got things of structure was, that well came everybody new is going perspective, perspective six-month be a structure turned old thought those and the XX sales above and think plan teaming quite a where of the the XX by handful get months, development way is in and one our early one that program and from we've fell flying effort to to six it quarter. earnest that was kicked months structure kind into second turned a nine our account about together from teaming in and airplanes new

wrap arbitrary of up, go. test and some of off bit things we've of We more we'll but get in as got bit getting or three will good to sequence And XXX% become companies. hopefully more that you little flavor a it in think time, the of whether of plan we ramps, that gives and think based with of on to a that, sales, little of it a kicked ready that these was that we part is we close the operating of our year kind place bring XX% a those a should for we're earlier comment a down order. to think We of going partners, short and that level significant manageable the we're think in the if sales program, that expectations double losses to my the much three. the plan, more come to or So revenue sales

George Godfrey

to for of what Aerospace what is, questions. like Dave, for out & to you, you my And going an look is you the take business is Defense Pete, question Thank portion Got the just in if it. idea XXXX just for taking Thank like. we Test semiconductor, one margin the business look that. for that get

Dave Burney

spitting that in structural -- think, the is below, throughout be. on it be year. distance any absent the changes is be above for we'll will right ballpark think it, expectation, XXXX where that's or at of we our in our now break-even Yes, looking mentioned little forecast Test business, to be so break-even, to little Pete But that's within the I a but the in of

George Godfrey

York the includes deal, that City New And correct?

Dave Burney



question proceed line with Please comes Our next question. Ken of from the Herbert Canaccord. your with

Ken Herbert

of a to $XX realistic CCC, half Pete, it was maybe loss fourth first is numbers a it think or million, I $XX in assumption? you take about from cadence XXXX the million, provided, is one three give this the just the that quarter sounds that to businesses, from maybe step then expect and you of what further, like Armstrong take it sort AeroSat the year

Pete Gundermann

would conservative. I that's hope

Ken Herbert

the step Okay, maybe you bit so like the quarter get of sounds back the it the year? second or half a second third from into to improvement of the to a as see you first of sort a

Pete Gundermann


Ken Herbert

antenna this that at of the really kick is and or that this know on meaningful that Okay, is there always talked a but businesses, is as historically mix sort -- is date? at part forward-fit retrofit in could XXXX opportunity that opportunity look I in a is about opportunity, something and of that you've specifically a as I AeroSat, later or those or a the for

Pete Gundermann

very OEMs certainly because It's quickest observant trend buck, that a in anybody opportunity, and retrofit think, target as for that's certainly go our to question. topic, going initial they of space there's the house. do of biggest the really and also Connectivity is best or interested aftermarket are like, the you a what's pull you in airplanes if that opportunities. an is bang the side are in is good is forward-fit expect, the an might the might new to that on for something very used. of a We the installed and lines this they product or very there us that find There hot speak, is airplane aftermarket buying to imagine, for so needs base to as But after.

with, both doing aftermarket to we and opportunity. So ready partners we're our with an we can what primarily pursuing but it's antennas, think, to in be begin

Ken Herbert

couple And just a clarification. of of points

incremental I impact. really that Is last of the year sort headwind million headwind said And think versus or million the this sort sort million X.X is X.X million tariff you X X.X of -- an a XX year. XX is the XXXX. in the or million of sort of highlighted You million incremental versus

Pete Gundermann

Yeah, what of incremental I the meant million to expense total. year, last million say versus was the million XX X.X so tariff X.X

Ken Herbert

you'd in I it. for or about absolute the $XXX about percent do any that like on the of And to you ended talked didn't should XXXX E&D an here year. commentary you or haven't We Yes, just spend then talk about maybe think or up million and level either that sort I'm sales how of where we the sort of however can about ended for wondering that XXXX or year. in at with one.

Dave Burney

XXX when for years Yes, or costs I acquired we XX when ended absent We that last fluctuations year-over-year. ago The can it's do period talking million driver the kind in about E&D at understanding the or buy spend it We over businesses. years, began leveled was important more about up one. of year. an about out, period couple E&D of

change forward the is would see talk XXX I We going points, million had rate in is maybe there a about in in expect, similar we some some to XXXX, looks of run of of it, in going is, we type and of the percentage forward, significant about XXXX. couple out XXXX run what to it it XXXX. So we'll for dependent rate like, looking expect the saw the change be inflationary spend. to would will when lot a on salaries kind we it plan

Ken Herbert

about sort a as customers backlog get finally, discretionary going maybe of else just just at some high then, growing of much your and you seat interiors level, around It of sort the of about in Can really with share, you're you're like but seeing motion in there. really in-seat modification talk like, sounds how taking terms growth airline businesses, product. spend on and everything we in growth of And what efforts that's with maybe Aerospace? it power part power I to much, know talk nice in-seat Pete, don't the segment sounds the other

Pete Gundermann

other time systems for in would in-flight in-seat toward world. in Sure. and so. power. I a We, mean, it's I be very, words, a gain for general, strong a stand-alone for long see say platform demand entertainment, prominence it continues power in to IFE, seatback in without continued continues power the obviously the to us trend airplanes systems, strong been around narrow-body

narrow-body wide-bodies of The airplanes go content customers those our IFE, providers of to So, is no get ours. to our will approach in large get are terms streaming displays. continue type who to through IFE wide-bodies getting increasingly IFE that, application are the the airlines. and so And directly very more and to to of a seatback them general of to our most do continues airplanes be approach on seatback is approach in

and means to, product it. really same with grow computers, with general, particular as and world used in of well and world. and for the many XXX narrow-body work we on cellphones that airplanes them, -- And with XXX, doing buying we in prominence demand airlines but the same as some continues aren't to the airplanes have they So connectivity all increasing are with they people in around maybe iPads our


comes proceed next from Our question with question. your with Michael line of Ciarmoli the Please SunTrust.

Michael Ciarmoli

go I in the is grows at can it we Pete, guidance? those those that assuming three Aerospace just midpoint, embedded million that I million something business -- for that X%. at your you're businesses if to $XX the from of mean like $XX assume I million, only go the the three $XX of back rest if mean, implies sort companies growth

us of thinking So of baked can type that the or you into give sort you're growth is guidance? what

Pete Gundermann

it guidance range. discounted put lower doing way the not we to guidance We some put risk as the end at for -- the It higher of exactly the we in is you're of move end and math. we range the the baked that into the there

Michael Ciarmoli


if puts to and some see of mean, I mean, Okay. and what sales less antenna to XX% XXXX? growth, Fair confident those to of going just, then I being in are likely takes you're enough. or that less going breakeven, update, status about you are growth, I we how yet any the And the but I there? get you mean, antenna the kind it antenna? last the performed to in were see give waiting on know, when is the think, update broad maybe can network. what's the gave Is us or we I marketplace there see

Pete Gundermann

a marketplace It's flying the sense in it's that on airplanes. bunch around the It's of out. in

we remember and flying have, systems might old network point. You all under out a I been of believe, those airplanes swapped handful had this the at

airplane that's are well. nodes the believe -- very airplanes new that test network for the those going we and essentially So acting as all

without tell to for $XX granular million level substantial As sales. going of come anywhere we're companies doing we you, But can what expectations, prefer million, I to not in terms get too what. $XX antenna near not that to

Michael Ciarmoli

I Okay. Do you that left accomplished? mean, is would be significant be what the the there first testing anticipate timing for has to sales?

Pete Gundermann

be we're think kind of what it's things there, established ready here think, think of up, actually incremental contract the things do, our I more go. the need and No, might sales to of that getting are warmed beyond we scope. structure kind but to done kind kind of cycle getting we We've we there

Michael Ciarmoli

owner, players. whether jet, I'm on need connectivity. this. jet Okay. And mean, have in I'm I Viasat, business but if just educate just then already Honeywell, to I existing players of go I cycle those and this -- out to a trying to going figure if established me business bandwidth, lot our probably what obviously sales I'm could, Collins. other mean, transoceanic if just solution? drives you What's all corporation out we out am I it's the create I to There's say, flying against Why retrofit? mean, retrofit I'm it's going my and a there already

Pete Gundermann

debate versus some there's you they competitors extent. listed the mean, Ka would Ku. to I a -- Well, there be are whole competitors of most

and whole there. a to So pros cons lengthy there's debate as

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Michael Ciarmoli

I here one operating an can. just on then more bridge sort And just on of the, if income

three talked about the businesses. You

get in So maybe those cut losses half.

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Dave Burney

second at going that saw run XXXX. quarter And the Mike. you're rate worth costs The you through kind thinking that know, get amortization in of fourth Important, to quarter in year first as a can as talked of of, a when about the looking in the is $X legal here, rounding we one-time most quarter But you issue. we that a one at of I look far expenses. I full accrual million for for you're when

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into next big year. things. continue expect to So, we were that Those don't the

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Michael Ciarmoli

Got it. back Thank I'll jump in you. queue, guys. the

Dave Burney

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Jon Tanwanteng

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Pete Gundermann

what -- not you can you're I'm I sure understand Jon? again, it say

Jon Tanwanteng


in QX. XX.X% So operating problem you ex had margins the businesses

Pete Gundermann


Jon Tanwanteng

next hold to that the expect year? up through you Do

Pete Gundermann

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Jon Tanwanteng

going or modestly what disclosed the in then another and press what business to about target back you have Test just year. be or being there? profitable the that? do to make you EBIT want that to an question cost-cutting release flatter of secondly, to and basis what And this efforts Was you were that those describing get you kind on And margins revenue

Pete Gundermann

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plan remainder where of in we might other and other pretty our that in prospects So in what to are ourselves didn't of we're we have growth -- have the with business, a sale, like analysis diversify us. pursue transaction place. go But given things do volume. mean, pleased a we time didn't, this looking and I us forward instigate trying our to felt it, to did bring if at it that XX% organic year to good But should we we and leaves kind we to do out it this, we an and in again, the going this more of have businesses it's came kind it.

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Jon Tanwanteng

or progressively off going But from do it the that is start pretty going year? and improves perspective, through margin a Okay. see to how then rough you Great.

Pete Gundermann

I can the of proceeds stabilize substantial I Well, out tell back end that. year. then the to the But you sale normalize mean, gain show it's the toward the and it's it'll off first the to start revenue you going going a weaker, in probably pretty of quarter, and of

Jon Tanwanteng

Okay. you. Thank Great.

Dave Burney

expect to revenue year relating we that pick to Yeah. goes the on. the rail And up as program


Company. Dick question line proceed & comes the from next Ryan your Please with question. with of Our Dougherty

Dick Ryan

you. Thank

million maybe follow some two -- A&D Pete, of test going pipeline kind revenue; facilities on $XX you question, supporting of versus to million, position latest kind commentary broader into striving how So, I you a know But Can -- got there. the does there? that you up comment rationalization business? in about position. prime your supplier the of there obviously, are some for on $XX on talk maybe the get of you pipeline a a just to opportunity of when opportunity look

Pete Gundermann

while. in quite Yeah, it's strong than or as a we been think it's stronger

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and is exercise what to we where have figure the we go left out now here. So from

end that So, expect release first more as comes quarter I the by results. of more quarter when on we first no we'll and the it certainly

Dick Ryan

potential down updates any opportunities, contracts on the EPDS Any current you road? and the the wins have

Pete Gundermann

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Canaccord. Ken is Our Instructions] a question question. with with follow-up from next question [Operator proceed Please your Herbert

Ken Herbert

follow-up. quick Pete, just one

one You've first here another easier the second-half. the in business got two comparisons in of on Aerospace with to the than half much XXXX quarters

considering a organic As aware we how just from progressed? of and be about the comps is growth, cadence anything across should XXXX standpoint there think we the XXXX

Pete Gundermann

good question. a It's

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proceed Ciarmoli the question. of question comes Michael next with Our your with Please from line SunTrust.

Michael Ciarmoli

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Pete Gundermann

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Mike Wallace

We're that? you plan us we thoughts cash. you about give the generating $XXX at Good. million you. the and Thank And get some flow the and year talk end receivable at to year. debt a despite some reduced from Test this to that's cash paying business just some over like of $XX the the some the the do job debt balance on year. down in what business little questions. bit Couple Looks do of on from with Can of million going Nice good that.

Pete Gundermann

doesn't have of let Dave them. kinds me Well, those checks when show up

Dave, So this you to do want answer question?

Dave Burney

million mentioned I we quarter initially. Yeah. that There earlier this we paid on I did, on later bill beginning think, we of the took debt $XXX is will short-term is estimate tax taxes on that. paid a million our be the probably second it the due be quarter. But $XXX down revolver. our $XX cash That down on about plan the and will as million, or

Mike Wallace

your isn't that? Okay. on Good. And What's year. any last there repurchase activity really share thoughts

Dave Burney

Again, continuing acquisitions priority. reinvesting and as the focus is the and on look growing business to at the

Mike Wallace

improvement business, Okay. saw Operating the year-over-year. margins nice in Aerospace some that

As think the bit we show for three troubled XXXX companies out should Aerospace into improvement other we margins business? started little look the operating to volumes, about of some how in as a

Dave Burney

some was operating think number a If achievable I that that's example in expect at Aerospace margins. of revenue, Yeah, quarter good nice a there. level we the I fourth the operate continued improvement of

continue expand that. at opportunities We to to look

$X.X million As headwind Pete segment incremental mentioned to our a million there. $XX the I earlier, facing say, tariffs; for cost increased mainly should Aerospace relating we are in

So continue explore that to presents a some of us bit China. buying as little electronics of we challenge from to to alternatives a those

good muddiness is comment my yes, the strange Aerospace real with was So, solid no quarter to a fourth quarter it.

Mike Wallace


base off build that to about XXXX? would a be think of for good as So we

Dave Burney

for or we've continued have again, of one-off things a have and quarter. -- that it's certainly, that didn't happened, lot was any there have of unfortunately the the in fourth last to Aerospace, year we for two, Yes, muddiness

So quarter it us. is a for good representative

Mike Wallace

it Yes, your seen lift a in XXX next think through of that it's one them. could see and about XX from we the the we converting running the months you look business. it probably we've through quarters points last think cleaner of to improvements XXX several backlog points And as the of in and to should XX.X%? about How over revenues the

Dave Burney

say Yes, segment intentionally I guidance providing and as said, the would out operating but But to strong. from operating margins, expand on we there rest for you lot when the it the remaining will depend three specific that Pete is Aerospace of margins. opportunity problem businesses, margins the mix. is sales carve stay away of And really

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& Our line proceed Godfrey Please last the King question. question George your comes with C.L. of Associates. from with

George Godfrey

you. Thank

M&A one. and say you you're share activity more the to Dave, is I before what focused want them quick And functioning a safe fully fixed we get Thanks. it businesses M&A authorization? but we with see Just you heard remaining activity? is the any where then, proceeds, on assume those three

Dave Burney

there share is acquisition I that the remain million opportunities. continuing fixing mutually wouldn't $XX And Yes, repurchase a of at from two is that the look authorization. exclusive problem to businesses say

shoulders have with running acquisition have continue opportunities. most businesses, us those those a with people work businesses, people at doing at are and team solid We that others the of the we now primary that behind two broad the are focus the and to that look

our there view to at two I businesses to fixing So don't ability as those acquisitions. continue look diluting

Pete Gundermann

to that, the script could would script if do perfectly can world be way I the the world it, perfectly. but add you that might you

So and if going was has be with for ago, ideally the your worked last and business case which just and our of things a things acquisition, candidates, to you super. acquisition ready in them to Telefonix how other you're year-and-two-months out on find good them the got which that when was are take best point acquisition you is whether

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session. for we Ladies the like reached would of to closing and the gentlemen, end have Peter question-and-answer turn back the remarks. I call to And

Pete Gundermann

today. Well, a for And we're, we're Okay. And going but with are always really year. well-positioned worked pleased struggles, your there was into out. felt were again, how thanks overall, really think attention XXXX. we're good XXXX it we we There struggles, pretty

a the So good thanks to look you for day. your at end Have attention. to of the first again talking quarter. forward We


conference. today's concludes This

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