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Mohawk Industries (MHK)

Participants
Frank Boykin CFO
Jeff Lorberbaum CEO
Chris Wellborn COO
Keith Hughes SunTrust
John Baugh Stifel
Stephen Kim Evercore ISI
Sam Eisner Goldman Sachs
Michael Eisen RBC Capital Markets
Timothy Wojs Baird
Scott Rednor Zelman
Mike Wood Nomura Instinet
Phil Ng Jefferies
Michael Rehaut JPMorgan
Mike Dahl Barclays
Laura Champine Roe Equity Research
Stephen East Wells Fargo
Christ Kalata Credit Suisse
Pete Galbo Bank of America
David MacGregor Longbow Research
Eric Bosshard Cleveland Research
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Operator

Good morning. My name is Sia and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Mohawk Industries Fourth Quarter 2017 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, this conference is being recorded today, Friday, February 9, 2018. Thank you. to like now would introduce Mr. I Boykin. Frank Mr. you begin conference, your sir. Boykin, may

Frank Boykin

Sia. as make year to that quarter and of Thank Investors and remind statements subject defined welcome the this discussion include and Commission. the Conference the call everyone morning, our forward-looking to during and periodic everyone, of XXXX. Today guidance the numbers. that to, are quarter you, statements full non-GAAP include for Litigation update first of company’s XXXX press Securities and which Good uncertainties, limited for our Exchange Act release This in filings to we'll I Mohawk in call Reform our set results on you not press and fourth Call. may Private risks we of forth Industries' with may provide those release Quarterly and would including the like XXXX, but various Securities

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Jeff Lorberbaum

and Frank. long-term Thank strong record-breaking allowed our In deliver you, Mohawk to XXXX, strategies organization results.

year, charges. and billion, up full X% acquisition reported revenues a the as operating restructuring, our all-time of $X.X an other billion, $X.X For X% X% rose generated high of to income increase. We and excluding

Our records. EBITDA rose $X.X to billion both

expired Our start-up income incremental reoccurring in and investments. higher rate XXXX when business grew patent excluding the much income at a the

of investments, our productivity company our business, our for the over improving highest we which XXX products, year, in with the During opportunities our growing identified we internal supported million history. differentiating

an our of patent earnings years, adding expanded expired. Click have three capacities even to led our increasing past the acquiring income as our new Over from businesses and products, new strategies

and significant the ramp results materials. new increases strategies production impact including to in costs of up million products of XXXX start-up and raw these reflected Our XX

past structure. year top nylon completed ceramic acquisitions we and in to our product mine four in include cost additional broaden Ceramic businesses These further projects Poland the in to existing carpet businesses our to improve U.S. materials and we’ll During bolt-on million that a plant for commence XXX a offering integrate and XXXX manufacturing. In Italy our invest were new complete XXXX, to and polymerization initiatives. and begun our

Russia, in U.S. and laminate as largest the sheet Our laminate investments period carpet Mexico, and ceramic our are United tile the the during U.S., as and U.S. increases in the Europe, Italy, capacity the luxury expansion the LVT and Russia, the and carpet vinyl Bulgaria in two-year of U.S., Russia in States. Europe, in Europe Europe, in countertops rugs in well and Poland,

and of in take to acquisition our Hirst, We Australia New producer finalize approvals the longer are Godfrey government which those largest countries. flooring awaiting Zealand in

enhance strategies existing as Hirst’s each our carpet other. from to expect manufacturing as We Godfrey learn U.S. we well as

growth and corporate increasing organization Builders, predicts an of national unemployment. In with Outside for this distribution increases could housing Mexico is increased the confidence is U.S. Association Center Hirst’s improving Summer employment of the recovery housing Joint strengthened during is and Institute zone. deliver tax Housing XXXX. strongest in that job XXXX GDP sales forecast construction XXXX as years. sectors economy. the single through According in fourth the buildings support improves both a between creation. values and economic in expansion. relief continued addition, National global strong anticipate and more growth a expanding low Spring surface remodeling we will with consumer projecting economic countries. all moderated, non-residential U.S. with spending and Higher The and further of Euro in decade investments along hard X.X% noting Mohawk across support the study and in synergies than to U.S., business should predicting XXXX in to economy American projected gains building The see consistent additional Home quarter rose economy, home spending, Harvard’s increased business the Godfrey disasters Architecture Union Russian increase benefit family is across The and the existing European year recent growth growth the oil for the prices in should single-family

our our results operating while costs X.X% for In million, the to and up $XX performance, of XX% of income the billion, prior-year of with fourth $XXX start-up million. Turning best recorded over $X.X growing when quarter the quarter period we sales performance by period, segment. from rate excluding our income our Operating the Wellborn, Officer, our now income more at higher provide patents. much at decline detailed absorbing a fourth in grew Chris will a look ongoing Chief business

Chris Wellborn

currency increased constant our you, a Sales days and our XX% Russia fastest X% reported acquisitions to European Mexico quarter, the Thank X% on as added In in and sales Jeff. Global grew and our and sales. basis. Ceramic the

the we growth start-ups. in coming reported, upfront including U.S. ceramic Mexico, online segment’s centers, with We in sales and as in approximately sales saw in plant period from legacy points our increase the XXXX. improvement capacity of service cost Russia anticipated acquisitions The integration and our investments Europe XX% up and the additional to sales anticipate in was As countertops, period basis XX during margin operating strengthening the for

the U.S. customers through Our period we in and large progress product improved even with postponing changes business reductions making inventories. as their

centers tile partnership countertop we home national products. This merchandising and opportunity stone To to our across sales greatest in features increase including To XX our ceramic construction new unique stone expanding consumers. innovative benefits single-family capitalize opened country on distribution, excited we have new in tile both our and that and are We tile regional U.S. our collections builders both months. the this, business. with and past XX about year, should their conveys growth for the are with wood our and provide the

Our are broaden distribution we top as sales counter increase offering. and quartz points accelerating our our

which our state-of-the-art In in the also quartz have surfaces. manufactured we the U.S. new countertop hired Italian introducing the are experts operational granite, the market, year. to of have globe porcelain We plant operations should end begun new our industry other which or slab being replicate from be start by countertops, around and marble,

ability porcelain achieve quartz to Our to relationships the in leverage countertop enable us leading fast-growing existing should a and position category.

achieved is productivity, improving all Mexican The of the the the record and American our ceramic our period, our we of people. Across and operations safety are in facilities, waste quality During cost. performances North strong. ceramic market recycling

sales expanded production. our recently increasing We with are

is ahead is expectations. our Salamanca plant fully operational Our production and new of

premium not We are large collections Mexico. introducing in in formats, with which produced European are styling currently

South with our the and unique by American larger We’re also our expanding styling new sizes. providing sales market capacity throughout

addition Our from Italian acquisitions. European increased outperformed ceramic and both sales substantially the Polish of market. We our and benefited the

in European progress third these in and significant adding their product made installed Poland offerings sales have northern our new new their quarter we We capacity production running integrating Italy, Central broadening in are line and sales. to enhancing We’ve and which businesses, the in expand be a strategies. will

increase Marazzi-branded expanding We to business. commercial specifiers our showrooms are adding and

which bath production as furniture, quarter, porcelain well this slab and and During as countertops. are large wall creates kitchen starting we floor tiles

technology slabs. proprietary Reveal and textile Imaging Our wood visuals stone, replicates on the

realigning to assets. manufacturing our by We are production our optimizing best-suited

our This ceramic Bulgarian to expansion our strengthened and growing the this larger market sizes our experiencing In mix. pricing increase region. environment, and in further producing sales our ceramic is the geographic is market are and we will volume as Russian has growth business business In XXXX, We market and enable the across improved pressure. and market our enhance still slightly margins from share. significant the outperforming increase the recessionary sales trough ceramic with European

our brands, owned sales increase retail efficient We’ve America In expanding Flooring and to points market stores the a Our cost X%. high-styled share. operating approximately rose significant production while million margins growing operations give advantage. full $XX our segment demand been and us of capacity North the restructuring satisfy basis offerings, quarter, our and competitive fourth XXX and consumer at are franchised increased absorbing and

carpet incurred also new million of inflation. costs with fourth Late our start-up rising a $X.X line. increase recover in During period implemented associated price the the quarter, we we LVT to

improve providing the consumer. new mix to and to and continue We benefits proposition our features value products of of all the

regional presenting We collections they and new started have our are at shows, being our enthusiastically received.

success soft customers grow carpet dealers, some have were during surface as price better the raised of levels Our SmartStrand all hard improved, offerings. inventory To recently by Continuum and our we prior management. than our residential and combined in faster changes the our to to sales our their Almost continued channels period sales strong serve residential highlighted sales residential product commercial. and

across we better seeing are product performance We as portfolio. leverage our relationships entire improvements our in

momentum gaining consumers superior are super-soft collections Our our SmartStrand Silk with performance. Reserve luxury choose as carpets

in patterned more carpets, premium are sales our Karastan designs As brand select driving homeowners distinctive the growth.

by typical can comprehensive our us soft be a commercial momentum our broadloom knife soft channel project Collection to carpet design recycled The half particular retail of channels, sales The enhanced With Sales leverage sales traditional tape institutional, that carpet marketplace. time Airo unique and new most in in using its end is easily better are surface from story. of covering solutions. sustainability revolutionary constructed is collections, product as of and fabric Mainstreet. the tile double-faced XXX% are Our by commercial only provide and that our our embrace and hypoallergenic a is less portfolios at of is accelerating Lichen growth allows unified hospitality, and the strengthening Airo to and takes customers our its floor materials. leading gaining award-winning in product with segmentation than installation hard recycled of a the life. organization

tile to backing a our introducing are collections. patented in system We new lower-priced carpet enhance

of We’re flexible tailored do-it-yourself, markets. commercial LVT with products each for specific and apartment residential, the offerings expanding our and rigid

second marketing investments expand we to a LVT our production in sales quarter. which be in During line will the of the new quarter, anticipation increased in manufacturing in our

and We are for a RevWood larger wood another creates with the introducing finishes. position product RevWood in style unique new sizes contemporary in marketplace. Plus Plus, waterproof leading Mohawk revolutionary

products. Rest increase continued implemented our changes cost the quarter, sales we in of an over increases currency strengthened. the as on The constant Euro our world dramatic local segment improve and most economies XX% of a in the material During in to posting basis reported outperform price X% our and Flooring as

a our reported increased as been restructuring use for has charges. licenses exceeded operating and XX% have growing in and productivity, reduction due a income mix the price, original our patent with of improved estimates finalized income and patents our to Agreements Our LVT. IP of acquisition result period our

carpet on with Godfrey acquire and Hirst, of to expanding Excluding operating as the will increased expired the in hard Zealand, well enhance floor our wood substantially flooring which is the income New all mezzanine We’ve focused in products. business acquisition In panel product our our ongoing agreed largest contributing. we’ve finalized two our and penetration. Australia strategy our to patents, for impact surface company Flooring distributors manufacturer as our which small a small of in enhance also Europe XXXX, differentiate groups European geographic and

rapidly limits we are as push Our growing sales the capacity. our LVT of

We are LVT performance as have market’s broadest and Europe offering leader. and design positioned we in style, the the

our expand before Our refine and our our we products rigid we new LVT satisfy presently present is will new existing collections produce we productivity. line to demand to improve operating Initially shifts as offering. two processes add

in initiated plant launch line the limited this the scheduled operational on period. Our tile quarter final with carpet phases new has come second before full a to European market manufacturing

experienced hired our salespeople carpet We to have tile distribution. build

leader we the merchandising quality offer with As and recognized the in fastest retail laminate, and brands best highest in the most industry. service the world’s premium

and features technology. sales long exclusive unique Our by laminate as meters driven waterproof such our over growing, planks are two

sheet in increasing are leadership easier to commercial greater desirable expanding sales as both residential our its and are care. to Leveraging design distribution due laminate we and and the Our wood durability channels. more our alternative an styling, technical vinyl

Our XXXX. fourth new should start the of Russia in quarter up plant in

the We and sales launch the experienced developing products and market are preparing by Russian assembling organization. for tailored to

as cost as pricing our with as inflation material anticipate in and has supply future declined. material Our available. becomes additional have the installation strengthened shortages We aligned lower business

wood improved margins demand and period, sales efficiencies. improved panel increasing our and the During with

the enhanced New financial sales period call Frank and turn I’ll review to panel year. and our have improvements our for and over mix the process reduced performance to introductions our cost.

Frank Boykin

the $X.XXX Chris. Net quarter billion, X.X% sales for as up were Thank reported. you,

on a the grew segment with rate quarter rates growth business rates. improving X% legacy all constant over Our exchange third

was reported as margin gross Our XX.X%.

an quarter Excluding improving as the price last Ceramic. consolidation lower plant $XX charges, primarily XX Unusual charges and last acquisitions offset over were was and inflation Global in of North to XX.X% or XX.X% excluding mix points and the basis margin productivity year. reported in XX.X% IP. was Flooring which improvement of as was sales, related America for SG&A million. over charges, year They were and

excluding margin last in as compared nonrecurring and fourth for $X price incremental was will quarter to year XX.X% $XX basis of million benefit offsetting The as well offset income. foreign The million charge over gain movements. of of of range quarter Hirst last the to in our Interest was primarily million from years quarter XX.X%. We resulted rate $XX million and was of non-cash items the operating over related taxes, be a revaluation XX other XXXX, Our to excluding estimate points excluding In $XXX paid million compared acquisition. That’s IP exchange of $XX start-up reform tax to positive million expense up foreign a expense taxes the income for earnings. $XX year. in $X to tax during charges inflation, $XXX loss XX.X% of cost is million productivity $X of the million, XXXX. with annual of In a deferred year. we eight last loss, and million interest for by lower $X XXXX a Godfrey $XX difference The million tax million unrepatriated income in have beginning mix quarter.

range for XX.X% to be XX%. XXXX tax from is the XX.X% Our first year rate about quarter to expected should and

by $X.XX, is were sales increase share Earnings If even start-up in percentage XX% the million, we of higher about with increase lower over anticipated XXXX an points. as per X% was Our segment the tax cost $XXX charges year increase excluding and IP to an reported. last this rate to of year. X Global segments, Ceramics move

on basis growing. up legacy Our regions with constant is a all business X%

quarter this improved quarter. rate growth last Our over

million in sales was Carpet. volume excluding both XX% $XX in Our million, Flooring $X covering America segment growth operating million with the had margin North inflation We of $XX charges and In and good $XXX a increase. X% of of productivity million. LVT were

the Our charges productivity inflation. million was of $XX sales. basis as and positive $XX of of World price, X% operating of $XX million In points segment sales all volume drove Flooring exchange grew constant Sales improved million margin excluding as and price Rest offset were XX% basis $XXX million, rate categories on up XXX mix with mix XX.X%. reported. Both major a higher improving. It

excluding margin was XX.X%. charges operating Our

with million the was quarter mix by of $XX Our volume of productivity price lower offsetting impacted of higher $XX in operating and income positive IP. million better $X and million inflation along

our As will a June have year-over-year loss of was $XX to Eliminations until a the segment, year. reminder, Corporate expired this charges In patent revenue million. we the operating and excluding from continue headwind

with ended XXXX. expect to the billion sales days balance We days. to loss $X.XXX million of from segment in the $XX million our outstanding $XX Jumping sheet, receivables range quarter to XX at the

been impacted next anticipate days. had with up products new $X.XXX we our have plant In We year. was and depreciation Inventories of billion. with equipment inventories backwards by and $X.X lowering material XXX cost, ramp fourth million. expenditures of amortization million Our capital $XXX higher inventory the quarter, of and integration. billion at $XXX were Property, inventories raw

$X.X are EBITDA. billion estimated X.X for term was debt, approximately I’ll debt with million at turn We amortization over times Jeff. million. with almost at $XXX XXXX the our call debt expenditures total estimating depreciation of $XXX In leverage to long to back capital and now

Jeff Lorberbaum

venture best large, that private record a combine features capital and Thank acquisition a public that well-run firm of Frank. group. Mohawk strategy the you, results reflect unique a delivered The the company,

limited depreciation and in profitability, our continuously market. new noncash geographical to these new unsurpassed to will introduction new products million carpet sales the distribution and America, we production. participating is first to prior the into to North to is moved position the for In cost timing increase in is of improving one-third $XX market innovative one-third expand million $XX about due products, ramping increasing the year, of sales investments, our and capability expand of one-third for utilization, quarter. This innovating segments our Flooring growth expand up our marketing portfolio. and our the all our some our across enhance regions long-term anticipate in up In organization’s scope. to the operations portfolio and is by Our invest quarter, starting we price Of

operating substantially ongoing results, expired start-up in Our excluding and patents the the first was quarter. investments, improved

enhance our all Taking EPS the completed euro, is any surface supplying excluding after The by their well our are product our which tax benefit to will year EPS to stronger increasing will opportunities onetime marketing lower closing first a rate, $X.XX, raw to your take charges. as to Hirst strategies, into acquisition $X.XX in Hirst be be accretive now Godfrey reform. tax from innovation to global Our will hard of to XX% sales for account, and and products. of as the first to glad earnings months. anticipate We past decline $X.XX concluded. year conditions $X.XX guidance approximately normal by other be this should XX of later their XXXX quarter questions. first this cost due materials acquisitions, We’ll Godfrey

Operator

first with SunTrust. Keith [Operator is from Instructions] Your Hughes question

Keith Hughes

and on sales, what improving us some along. the you have your went as quarter give comments just You pace the Can caused ceramic XXXX? ceramic out view we started kind made on how of that, of

Chris Wellborn

Yes.

the U.S. allow and of LVT will our part to offering our our our has a growth, business. new quarter did in us and are U.S. and our increase returning improved we’re in to Our The adding to posture optimize. plant business during With plant expand we’re increase overall four industry capacity new ceramic X% LVT the large running, absorbed historical trends and segment Mexico continuing. growth was significantly but countries. about the

Keith Hughes

do have XXXX? what And a ceramic feel in of rates growth you’ll you you kind think for in see

Chris Wellborn

through saw quarter I going and year. to I are you’ll continuing improve. to gradual improvement have so them improve We think fourth the think they’re through gradually the continue to improve,

Chris Wellborn

LVT this next could We year, depending still of impact be tell. how grows the upon It’s - to sales growth, to again much it hard year. have the growth everything

Keith Hughes

Is had early you’re goes to levels do down? the year, to going will the gradually inventory in down production take year Frank that XXXX. those get come down along? Or coming question. here to in Final as referred it something

Frank Boykin

we gradual It’ll go the probably as be year. through

Now, the gotten through prices increase in by continuing. have and some before selling the caused raw price of material it’s

backward it’s and are going of Some caused some to by further more. done, we’ve integration the we reduce inventory

Operator

The is with from question next Stifel. Baugh John

John Baugh

was if I LVT wonder different that in U.S.? between markets curious specifically those Mexico, growth. ceramic you Are and was for incursion you. commented you strong, in dynamics the markets those in Russia the ceramic believe, could dynamic comment versus I and is I Thank two what the

Jeff Lorberbaum

ceramic those will move and where sure It World. is the LVT when the difference U.S. other ahead or a LVT in things. a couple much I they’re using the least Rest as The we’re Europe. you rates probably guess dramatically do. adaptation, then, but same product would well different it on markets install, is not of cost I’m different, into depends not Europe’s ceramic more so the than at LVT what in One And produce is of years markets lower at to to is as cost of two between

been markets in the limited plant and much of On just grow us it’ll markets, double-digits without about how started grow. growing the can growing so help we the but Mexican new basis been the we up, we’ve we’ve

base preparing peak. business. South barely to you trough into the and down to Prior the up. or they’re is how changes this about new sold do in oil market it year. think In be addition, year question Russia they it economy? came They American this for declining. is from slow our as start a XX% the off the dramatically in the business came like to we’re the things I environment We’re this just to that go much up capacity because going historical Mexican to of putting in the the in ramps trough When year, Is off to ramps so into we’re and the it It were Russia, fast better. where up entering using we’re it but going be

John Baugh

Thank is keep repatriation, foreign areas acquisition on you. then or there in you cash, because opportunity will have, whatever an And you of opportunities?

Jeff Lorberbaum

of really most strategies. So it’s our using cash to we the what in not in we’re were and not change doing we’re were We markets changing going our much.

Operator

Stephen from Kim ISI. The next question Evercore is with

Stephen Kim

usual, then the that, lot mix. my a see kind have areas likelihood think detail, to margin-type It the to talked that of Appreciate new capacity or time formats the the and that in talked all about a the that I you Mexico Jeff, your Bulgaria. you’ve capacity to be that one. margin broader is a a indicated I would derogatory been you’ve of that’s but you’d to constrained about the there’s we going questions. optimizing same relates tend of we some that opportunities larger first business guess favor negative I higher if know tile you’ve question and that additional in in situation, on, and positive mix concern fact a as arise comes At

the LVT talk price flexible rigid about higher point a You more than stuff. being

and at how be you excluding and back think do positive businesses, look we you know, any, stand it price or commodity all distortions? of your mix? when So input negative Will about

Jeff Lorberbaum

mix business going have we the The our is improve and of and in into. innovations year bring that every goal every marketplace to market and product to every improve we’re we our new category the innovation

of depreciation other new as actually more when cases something, some capacity get also lower-end up do we in hand, in to so the in the as significant move possible that, quickly in we to have cover the business. you you as On sales to assets increases put sell the

cases the you’ll sales billion the capacity the still will capacity of this all we there mix, a to have. coming in most but year think on, limited positive with almost still new I see be is more $XX new but pieces

Stephen Kim

like more productivity. next maybe maybe but to question even related mix a productivity of So number positive year. outlook. second year My hear I an terms this in maybe sounds didn’t it

for year and I productivity for maybe what in you’re what the last you a sense us how might year. see maybe do we whole Frank, think you’d comfortable might could with given give XQ? outlook some for

Frank Boykin

these Yes. greenfield-ing from to doing would And be, with much the of start-up even of amount as know it was with greenfield will investments that XXXX. costs. that it we’re the more Productivity line with all going what in in million products will be significant $XXX we’re doing, these was as longer-term doing you XXXX, XXXX to returns just as in I XXXX. most we’ll benefit say beyond. new productivity, as the $XXX that In in more and here, don’t and be higher we I’ll see longer, geographies to it businesses many the better companies but cost, are we’re but we’re XXXX are to saw in much going in million add investments here going much have due in see public we and start-up as a result of

Operator

The Goldman Eisner next from Sam with will question Sachs. come

Sam Eisner

of ramp. on for year, that’s obviously for the kind guys Without actually more how Just in any back giving put is when’s looks of finally reaching either of this that you product capacity into just to the point kind better stuff online, full or out XXXX? occur business new the of though or you’re expect earnings as some of this starting should guidance half starting it to investors where begins we’re coming that a a how that the to should the the an and So acceleration? coming market year, top line kind us of market. Is understanding something

Frank Boykin

management market, have X% We XX%, a the years, history even try with grow compounded expiration our we’ve the you, sales better. operating and you compounded balance so as can three in with to sheet, doesn’t to the for start of But over of existing long-term has to, patents. these remind returns doing, We it forward it’s much and believe at of going market like greenfield-ing. done But lot I’ll last we’re and our come fast you people, going outperforming a and new and our you outperform the what our income from these to, businesses, up get. acquisitions the new to strong long rate supposed growth to a This was it’s we the supposed investments show equipment more be When do that’s we’re little as are than it’s can. up train doesn’t going normal. when volatile going be things the we it

Sam Eisner

facilities and to start-up of And side as little just of there about the you talk be quarter some on into than going the necessarily costs, the operationally Can kind then what schedule? behind as maybe walk just focusing maybe operational what’s the that here the maybe start-up you from XXXX. through rather a the numbers, of causing here that does seem is shift? fourth bit shift causing and a on quarter shift? Are Can first well things

Frank Boykin

direction, quarter start-up million $XX you don’t we the speak to through see go And year, see or this it piece. than in so so have million. really in now, change. it be it of as we rest lot a next a we will the any of $XX period as the up I We the as first about see investments coming through. on at about as that, $XX just You heavier a it’s million of and costs with shift, either two mean, month things move ended a we it year, normal

Sam Eisner

can I within first synergies to that more $X.XX sneak just here $X.XX that XX-month base just in business? include just period, If does one or on Godfrey Hirst, the is

Frank Boykin

everything. includes It

Operator

Eisen Michael from is question next The RBC with Markets. Capital

Michael Eisen

million a a over think have to the understanding we in are think of seeing you’ve I the big longer-term capacity spending little these of better dollars to and comfort elevated expansions $XXX want a well just last years what In about CapEx you revenues, so past, few end XXXX talked supporting in give done levels that you about in get billion Just should the guys markets incremental the over you in wanted kind picture maintaining of how out benefits. longer-term. guys more playing the

Jeff Lorberbaum

picture, see we signs positive a industry our From marketplace. in big every almost all are in that

If supporting the changes at strengthening. law U.S. see and be We spending you look the more more appears business, consumer business as tax growth. to

encouraging at home If sales, continue go through. and everything with to prices, as existing is grow to remodeling higher you the you expecting new look them home more

through, constrained In Mexico, different just we were you capacity. the you go As pick markets. by

we’ll up get came that benefit of and quarter, fourth in So the out it.

countries. two different We’re or Europe three putting new in in capacity

capacity sold We’re Russia bottom recession. of the up marketplace just we’re in because coming a in the putting of new basically out that’s

to investing go We’re products new into. in

We’re going than to develop there the longer carpet already to A It’s that. a big a tile, new because which don’t ones base into opportunity. other selling have take we business marketplace. is going core the

sheet We’re with the vinyl going same doing in Russia new into business.

things in better So drive of much country than we to the and forward trying on going our lot do every business have a market.

Michael Eisen

the one just both the the half SG&A to weighted? costs it’s year? cadence follow and sales of increase start-up of SG&A spending force, then And and it costs the associated of thinking to component When quarter, be quick where marketing the the follow kind up. the items does some of of we from Or line going flowing very should how the through headwinds think first about start-up first I’m

Jeff Lorberbaum

and in broken second be we have the don’t happens or what shorter. little the half, it anticipate. second will starts I individual quarter, is first longer that then stuff less assuming heavier the there will pieces the but quarter, be than like first It could the be down a half in up more by

Operator

Wojs The with next question Timothy from is Baird.

Timothy Wojs

fourth on XXXX? spend ceramic. how you bit kind the set I in to in the their quarter businesses guess, maybe and Could you the retailers back destocking do talk and little expect about a just, of

Jeff Lorberbaum

year the the the transition. look were you and if had Well, new of change-outs we constrained the came time, the added at several happened fourth product of quarter in the those capacity product first is that products, quarter. XXXX At really retail end capacity part first that quarter into We in starting the which same at and last fourth up the we year. taking

Frank Boykin

were the under to we takes on optimizing capacity more, and we that speak. we’re strategies little in and change it process operating constrained comes as capacity selling a to half while happened when we the that so what from our conditions So the managed in and change up, business of first based limited

Timothy Wojs

cost. maybe materials you think trend to How moved through just need just given price you raw increases? XXXX do price on should like where more in of then feel that you and kind today? Do And put to have

Jeff Lorberbaum

had put and and good as is commodities on can dropped you our almost the mean, were product implemented could I costs as in up every guess this if in where oil and last year it marketplace I cover increases that to prices inflation We’ve year, and we’ll down. it guess wouldn’t because job, be this tell had doing again. the to we react seem the have that it oil’s gone we price to back All and huge then whatever of pricing happens Your anticipation but is. oil we’ve based I I ours.

Operator

Zelman. will come Rednor question with next from The Scott

Scott Rednor

I question think on of lot just a there is the of investments. timing

grew I and XXXX and XXXX, they X%, consensus in grew legacy think XXXX. So X% the right for in overall X%, is around sales looking in

you market, you of with visibility the estimate there? are comfortable some investments these out have that to coming Given on

Jeff Lorberbaum

in this markets we’re think are stuff XXXX sales depends as We through the can. try what get but going and be XXXX all works it our to as will we on higher to high growth than and how

Scott Rednor

XXXX? total And acquisitions for in what’s that Frank, consider then, the outflow should we

Frank Boykin

about XXX. it’s think to I XXX

Scott Rednor

just next realizing feel valuations don’t ever the the enough see reflecting going from the and you stock current guys consider like you if stocks CapEx put the the than going with are you back even generate you returns CapEx. Would that in? buying in you’ve back And years couple Jeff, the to cash so, the that lags more of

Jeff Lorberbaum

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Operator

Nomura Mike from Instinet. is Wood question with next The

Mike Wood

Good covering job quarter. the fourth in inflation price with

pointed building have quarter first Is quarter of what’s profitability or other your you first about half your XXXX first and can Some impacting embedded your forecast? the in guide to product talk in that companies headwinds.

Jeff Lorberbaum

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Mike Wood

into I your factored was thinking guess an I quarter just first guidance, more so Yes. we what’s about idea. had

Frank Boykin

might the have whatever in think planning covering now, first we inflation we’re I quarter. right that on

Jeff Lorberbaum

a difficult too. have time We

and from products we some price to point. mix change period-to-period. as much mix to it’s have sales price product difference many is this that the at have which I which follow. hard We we and just as tell tell between hard how to mean, It’s

Mike Wood

talk sort what the coming expected the of with online and the in line about launch can of from rigid, goes? of with learned LVT And LVT here flexible kind launch the lessons you terms ramp how this

Jeff Lorberbaum

Yes.

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Operator

Ng Phil Jefferies. The from with next will question come

Phil Number

but of expansion productivity X strong year? another up planned margin inflation you and be another for do million drive XXXX you’ll year with this see to anticipate start-up to Good able costs, of ticking

Frank Boykin

business our going excluding if you margin, costs good operating think we’re income incremental start-up good look I see that excluding IP to growth. and at

Phil Number

business, And coming potential this LVT order a along the and Thanks. Any year? ramp, have lot in in line switching how terms you of contribution capacity gears of to that’s top online. coming obviously to color your that’s patterns,

Jeff Lorberbaum

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Operator

Rehaut JPMorgan. question will The next come with from Michael

Michael Rehaut

bps an wanted still productivity for focusing going I to on in go question improvement you’re expansion XXXX, with it consolidated good all-in? it to XXXX. when Frank, that to just were you margins in said even answered around an about and give earlier productivity earlier given of enough in issue expect XXXX. IP with are back I you’ve around timing guess to an you But expectation said consolidated margins that to at how expecting and up. start-up IP able to Will In margins changed so consolidated And exclude that achieve start-up all? a continued and or profitability forth? a due you costs? XX believe lot a in less little we the improvement, I question expect be we you thinking XXXX, you perhaps margin Should were bit issues the on? is Has further

Frank Boykin

a as think I Mike, mean, I before, I you good said point. made

business. We’re has doing amount - Timing Jeff We’ve lot start-up certain back about new talked we’re costs. investing of a always projects a with got with into not significant already that is our operating know what sure excluding growth these income. start-up good see is up, on excluding projects that for to when come and they’re but to going we IP and we’re going do

Michael Rehaut

improvement of equal, the You Are point, a and starting XXX XXX year a fantastic margin year-over-year How little expansion? in else continue bit slow margin of expansion kind up necessarily that by Maybe period do strongly the expect of of of driven quarter, asked get a everything the little not a margin in again, you to When improvement where you’d bps think bit. margin trajectory you’re XX% terms margin going some incremental the a XXXX. do business? America, to At another at there do the North to or bps we that to that way. about to you for of Flooring exceeded with look in you year-over-year fourth productivity. margin lot

Frank Boykin

North six, profitable where geographies, investing we’ve significant end have for been around so see be times, like I of to an going Yes. all the our we’re last up. working longer But we over better, couple and new way of were to what different already in technology, just term, going got eight America. these with longer is hand, projects P&L term, so lot LVT through, have to going But we’re returns a recognizing a to we’re both projects other got said the from and investment we would new plant or it’s a business. sitting saying amounts start-ups, or satisfied We’ve seven, we’re we’re on I’ve coming this XX improving those at term, from big much in a up going without we’re But more a to products, things big, technology, lot and here We’ve always sheet. half wall and either the longer that new to This the table there, months. picture say world, things. Jeff much before. in on going balance good me up new be across see looking that the never where says the now were

Michael Rehaut

incremental. the One just year, last just The is number? I $XX start-up words, last million the one, expense, want is quick a make I $XX understand, that In other to million total that of to clarification. million minus the million $XX difference $XX sure

the million, expected a two, understand ago? or that $XX to number correct, And $XX that’s number that to want higher six Just months or is one. number you three million than lower

Frank Boykin

start-up so we’re I in we costs million $XX million of start-up question, sure your understand in think. estimating total $XX first spent That’s and XXXX question, XXXX. costs total million your $XX I make So to in

costs be And and that with In thought. terms before forth, know and right. start-up is bit that estimating to on of year to back projects going of we we XXXX. six - remember something we number little for the best at. stab what the year we’re XX I end all the ago these costs were are that months honest, moving Last not our here, taking months than And start-up a was be where less don’t

Operator

from next come Barclays. The Dahl Mike with will question

Mike Dahl

standpoint, a in XXXX. to headwind Not just margin up. also understanding talking a a from that this in big D&A operating XXXX margins, versus beat follow but we’re much, when increase this about Frank, too is

would EBITDA of looking more we’re in or commitment from EBITDA at margins confidence a consolidated if more have increasing So margins XXXX? a basis, you to

Frank Boykin

to I margins; I start-up growth. EBIT IP, that we’re way excluding think margins same EBITDA the would the going the address and have excluding did I good

Mike Dahl

you of you’ve what half finalized through like IP, understand in want it were sounds can us don’t this us looks year. the some help necessarily but like? run us now just on the just working basis, - for second Is the of to an last to the you On new give there know I agreements ongoing something rate frame that you

Chris Wellborn

expand can of is LVT say to was patent to for technology it. Growth was continuing use due better in opportunities are we we look revenue we our What that the and higher around world. to the than expected,

Operator

next The Research. from question with will come Laura Equity Champine Roe

Laura Champine

we and Ceramic, results internal better, start-up I Good in My capacity was QX, or But were to about as in and the relative you And in segment product your new as the margin worse, incremental estimates what inefficiencies launch by new same? in missed on if Global of QX, morning. could a you what wonder did you began lines? that terms looking quantifying which by question for is one little absorb the final help you us costs bit.

Chris Wellborn

those we went in and also capacity of both Europe up in brought and brought we during up Well, period, capacity the extremely start-ups well. Mexico

Laura Champine

Do you numbers? the have

Frank Boykin

$XX costs there. start-up million incremental

Laura Champine

your you entered segment expectations how that quarter, segment versus as And perform? as when that the the far in did operating income adjusted

Jeff Lorberbaum

Listen, they’re always too low.

Frank Boykin

you And, And need to I Laura, to the come $XX back start-up. million to The correct on incremental is myself. I’ll have total deal.

Operator

The next Wells with question Fargo. is East from Stephen

Stephen East

you XQ any and much already the tangible you you look that? talked first and the in your drivers role changed looking beat quarter carpet pricing that then to I’m pricing how guidance you both beyond, and a improvement? growth quarter you’ve I are wondering understand And thinking are accelerated fourth and that what be beat. your played there as to we was your improve significantly the ought trying the pretty your XXXX, the we that into and end given perspective If take that’ll look what about at through XQ about had pull-forward you at But into operations. on from that a other beat prior carpet quarter help getting easily give fourth of in to October. and

Jeff Lorberbaum

we change us; on surprise, the that’s to have quarter the In the business out There’s due balancing think and were the which all of the the be rates do. and be when going biggest the about quarter, knew given they’d a reasonable to up first control There’s sales we the show our we of actually where I pricing estimates general, FX think there. into increases. within going in that we costs fourth them, levels wasn’t we for versus they flow-through and that on. went thought price some we pull-forward the piece, of was there how

Stephen East

coming about the over much us would with talked it how come about in of in Could what And a filling capacity CapEx, on that rough billion roadmap sort a in is and of you several time. think going $X.X talk this little on, about, bit the on you’ve of times so that to back you’ve expect you have give sales lag for rest and got that’s far, the then all then you’ve you capacity coming of up past so then or you when on, capacity? coming got

Jeff Lorberbaum

across be and up as overlapping to Then with take reason we then and start it? does minutes question take it like then timeframes not - to the you And clear optimize? it’s how you more falls does and it not It’s it at is is there’s years. long given long can’t sell how the it

reason to and up we LVT any you It’s multiple-year Europe. about minute talk the a it line line at we So running in coming just I the mean, in two line tend about draw - - if in talked shifts. circumstances

it is take see. We’re it going sell have going is to optimize? to us long to up it to how to to going long take Now and how us

Stephen East

Is though not XXXX? that exit but time at the capacity sales X.X it the the would majority billion, be in that capacity that of look itself, we fair assume by the as to you place

Jeff Lorberbaum

cutoff and it now XXXX gave capacity and I’m XXXX what which on we’re not between fairly XXXX be running now. investments like I It’s capacity running which moving XXXX, it’s back up that Mexican I from was mean, soon. it made times hesitating time incremental to plant. don’t don’t I the different there’s some the right at in we in moment happening and those the are and the number and had a think and we’re was, the we it’ll I while the remember and the because number into what’s and we that expected remember the if at full, of And far it and investments be is

Stephen East

fourth the one going to price back just the quarter? last, into through price carpet think and got and hike hike. And much put How pulled much forward how do the you was

Frank Boykin

winter The increase carpet put forward speak. to on. we’re implemented in, because dip as price in the pull we of announced in normal The pieces to inflation X% going this hard cover and time. to Most we the X% is we its tell that

again. start It’ll probably the we we the got. the - be So occurred. view actual we of the ordering don’t maybe what know have until before first a next see they’re orders quarter going we the be customers good is the we end what going to quarter know what The of question are to what when or of

Operator

come Susan question Credit will next from Maklari The Suisse. with

Christ Kalata

questions. Susan. for This for Chris on taking Thanks is our

America. guys are sales first move how is this far does along to hard you that position and versus softwood the and process? competitors how What in between on consolidate Our on and question that drove surfaces North change you

Jeff Lorberbaum

residential are did what regional - salespeople. the management So people that the above business, our we sales the we in changed above

and to stages there customers So it put influence structure we’ve the also then that management, different because manager like of needs then region product are sales that the it, selling us segregated initial the product the it’s we the of salespeople changed. looks the and of as over both each made the still present we’re the done using our And so the are better categories. customers ability going above products we’ve The and smaller better. management far but to the help showing all categories, meet

Christ Kalata

That And how $XXX your of is second that into is of guys versus markets? clarification. of then going to question much the earlier, my faster U.S. spoke CapEx. million on some you growing that other breakdown for the Thanks

Jeff Lorberbaum

have I we have know right it. I’d it. I have - it don’t to don’t now. just

Operator

The Lovallo Bank next of question with is America. from John

Pete Galbo

quartz, specifically. well Pete in taking U.S. the actually you just Thanks the quantify question. on John. for porcelain Galbo if I’m guys wondering the as countertop as It’s for could opportunity,

Chris Wellborn

could them separately. take We

$X.X So billion the more that’s market at quartz, and $X the with per year. quartz billion, growing XX% is countertop estimated than

plant stone then this our support on the We’re will plant, at that’s up year, we to start an product that’s offering expanding quartz. and porcelain, centers And on of that grow, but the Italian U.S. new our starting and end have which we’re selling to a sizes EU are for to in time facades. niche quarter Porcelain produce the this both plants really and product going wall take so countertops the also that’s floor, large

Pete Galbo

expense just What for the driving is year-over-year step-up one. a XXXX? Frank, in And, quick modeling interest

Frank Boykin

my back get be to or what $X is about I the exactly. of I’m million It’s much. million, top that off up it not - up don’t it’s stepping I’ll up not It’s so actually to know it’s so $X that sure you. much, not probably stepping head. honest,

Operator

The Research. with from next is Longbow question David MacGregor

David MacGregor

think It’d ones. you to LVT? end difficult indicated would business Just was a ceramic are in you a LVT much ceramic the where I cannibalizing of be Ceramic had to responding How two here, happened Jeff, at couple function growth headwind earlier How think question call it quick of LVT. Ceramic, a feeling grow. is know the a in do your you of that now? from much of right what

Jeff Lorberbaum

I more, of be think total is was to even I is as year say I increase and Flooring impacting of not in all taking I or higher going LVT. everything incremental more last would LVT was large the up interpreted two-thirds of same impacted the was a Ceramic you taken it. said maybe it’s by a - the in just the Flooring because guess that to of what it. piece than What growth else, meant all meant finitely I part

We’ll same is will the it’s the it after plateauing will know keep at question growing out Now, or it rate. start over.

David MacGregor

Second What the stores U.S.? are Ceramic look for XX in like the space, XXXX? what think I mentioned question does additional still you’d opening XXXX. for in that your plan new plans on stores

Chris Wellborn

nothing substantial. those stores XX. here but of then, there, stores, few Most have And a we’ll the and

David MacGregor

base give the What’s denominator? us Can now? the you

Chris Wellborn

XXX roughly have stores We altogether.

David MacGregor

Thanks very much.

Jeff Lorberbaum

centers. service And

Operator

question Research. final with is The Bosshard from Eric Cleveland

Eric Bosshard

Also through think we in Curious limitations the sound Chris, of the half Two I the through XXXX. year? in XQ. Entirely, in Is business last we that what hurt business understand, was made to sort terms or now the of year. how last the about you that capacity should get read those first that us that got progress understanding rate things. year resolved moving growth this growth? back should through traditional walked it Does its of parts of X% like that X%

Chris Wellborn

industry. where we impact starting and it’s to there things that say and the it’ll is with the back we can think exception it’s been of - we to come of get All other back the could LVT that impact

Jeff Lorberbaum

up other more. the again, And hope about in spread predicting, the our goes we’re time that into how but our X% LVT. that question Flooring of much grew it’ll think versus XXXX, one largest that That pick hard close and is be category to manufacturer could categories. that is the I that of then having we’re the is LVT product a estimate around

putting We’re on much more.

have anybody the head we of in and LVT in low-cost significant we’re world, a We start making think automated well-positioned.

Eric Bosshard

category I that The earlier. going constraints that understood to resolved XXXX, And into relieved? tile XXXX? do get sure make comments hurt capacity in the so you and Just the the constraints capacity

Chris Wellborn

That’s correct.

Eric Bosshard

evolution, and couple specifically on I’m the of that. perspective import set your secondly, and is the what competitive are years, that. secondly, product the Jeff, then, last of specifically on and your curious addition capacity over perspective of your evolution then, the what domestic And evolution And thoughts capacity of in terms the in LVT

Jeff Lorberbaum

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to see five in have four product the going plateaus has to We’re it or The years. out. how last evolved dramatically

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Frank Boykin

going all interest in if be and And million XXXX on million questions we’re Europe. increases in here driven to rate up expense, that’s open and or the could estimating I by it’s $X the U.S. just $X clarify two

question The second start-up to cost cost in were open incremental had quarter million. do fourth with the Operator? Global $X Ceramics, start-up in

Operator

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Jeff Lorberbaum

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Operator

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