RS Reliance Steel & Aluminum

Brenda Miyamoto Investor Relations
Jim Hoffman President & Chief Executive Officer
Karla Lewis Senior Executive Vice President & Chief Financial Officer
Bill Sales Executive Vice President of Operations
Martin Englert Jefferies
Hunter Alley Goldman Sachs
Phil Gibbs KeyBanc Capital Markets
Seth Rosenfeld Exane
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Greetings and welcome to the Reliance Steel and Aluminum Company Third Quarter 2019 Earnings Conference Call. At this time all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded.

It is now my pleasure to introduce your host Brenda Miyamoto, Investor Relations. Thank you.

begin. now may You

Brenda Miyamoto

our Good Bill our thanks of during our call. conference results. of Vice also Jim XXXX operator. Lewis, will and you Senior Operations our our third all question-and-answer Executive for the this financial Executive Hoffman, by joined joining call and I'm available and morning you, portion CEO; to Karla CFO; and President of quarter President Sales, Thank be to President discuss Vice

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Reliance. to now President turn CEO Hoffman, of will call over Jim I the and

Jim Hoffman

our to the each with and for we're area. to my each would and to applaud today. in every relentless us of everyone, for progress day. remains morning, But first, their and third core quarter each safety every Good results Reliance you Safety Brenda. you moment, joining you, colleagues making and primary value XXXX commitment I today. this address everyone pleased I'm very our thank discuss thank I for safety like Thank and

in third of performance to the quarter financial XXXX. Turning our

of of strong high of markets levels We to results. which service produced again with execute diverse our strategy and continue across focusing end once increasing financial levels value-added products on processing, customer

our was better performance outstanding we by along Demand of managers gross generated of sales which the financial XX.X%. anticipated, and billion diluted field business We year-over-year share earnings XXXX third net than results including our in unique resilience pricing. increased somewhat metals XX.X% and as quarterly with power believe fluctuations $X.XX, per highlight improved an model of our profit in our $X.XX margin of to earnings well quarter a increase as further

shipments higher construction. in non-residential we third mainly by had strength the than were demand quarter in driven anticipated, Our

buying surcharges. also a believe in nickel experienced an shipments of which we change We due stainless increased reflects to products, increase steel in patterns

While volumes to the many second trend were our years. the businesses in of normal compared quarter, experienced seasonal of generally prior lower declines than less shipping the

by the better industry sold the of in X.X% MSCI of third declined significantly second from Our reported XXXX, the quarter only the X% tons as than XXXX period. decline same for of quarter

testament XX within industry-leading often basis hours. when-needed business model small performance to sizes a on including We believe our characteristics is delivered our order key

was weaker metal anticipated. surpassed third demand While for our pricing the expectations, quarter than we

our ton quarter expectation second Our XXXX, X.X%. compared to of average of per the to X.X% down selling declined X.X% price sold exceeding substantially

price we certain mill provided guidance, third for products. time been quarter increases the multiple announced steel At carbon had

than prices we increases even announced. these increases the before lower ended did with not However, quarter hold the were and

addition, carbon prices steel In quarter. also declined scrap during the

customer including most our results. order our was offerings, exposure, service financial quarter of expensive and sizes declining and processing the our proven model, that helped in fact on conditions the softer reduce small value-added business and reliable diverse overall prices capabilities pricing anticipated, Despite end-market third broad impact the than importantly, product consistent

in managers to throughout industry profit industry-leading maintain our cycles. ability margins our gross instrumental are field Our in the

Although business coupled value-added margin us FIFO increased prices enabled of had processing line at metal declined in XX.X%. quarter with more high-margin a on disciplined the high-quality, than to maintain levels managers' anticipated, XXXX second gross we our profit with focus

do our for amount We our continue request customers. mainly we of continue to our expand address seek capabilities to that increase to the will value-added value-added offerings and processing and the to services level we opportunities perform, even and to more of service customers

market markets. in normal volumes steel stronger third non-residential products experienced anticipated. to to was of second and quarter our to market shipment we structural seasonal this XXXX construction, serve compared Contrary trends continuing. largest conditions we quarter to carbon forward tubing Turning in trend look Demand end than we increased the in the and the key end of

The services for we operations the market processing strength remain demand underlying our toll U.S. Demand in Mexico processing mainly we through the quarter. to strong in automotive provide of which service the content and will third of increasing with market proactive improve. investments equipment trends value-added to facilities that confidence driven aluminum position vehicles levels continue our in by in automotive in us combined processing and our gives the

up. quarter building completion installation are -- increasing of of production the XXXX, and XXX,XXX-square-foot continues expansion Following an slitting an in in of the and to Kentucky a the as our line aluminum ramp addition of second volumes

processing automotive operations the existing our support toll three to that in in We're also activity better region. Mexico process in of of expanding

for order positive with also operations. throughout lead-times. demand As such quarter healthy we maintain the processing and steady solid Aerospace growth continued remained our our mill a backlog in toll outlook

of mainly price increase and has and steel heat-treated a reminder stainless well which effective became The as August sales support in the quarter sales market our the into specially as products. aerospace X% As benefited of mill products titanium market on our plate heat-treated aluminum majority into market. full third plate aerospace the aluminum consist

remained common for the steady sheet Demand quarter. throughout aluminum alloy

continued quarter. to alloy experienced pressure has fourth aluminum which been in pricing increasing from the tight into the However, availability has of the half the year common first sheet levels

the As activity quarter take I increased pre-buying a result mentioned steel we was believe to customers' shipments surcharges nickel increased advance of of earlier, which our in effect. during stainless scheduled

somewhat and Demand in the heavy industry during quarter. weakened both equipment construction agriculture

at expect similar to the near-term. We remain in activity levels

energy, Demand mainly has efficient market declining has more Despite is drilling with counts. the with been anticipate being continued for completion slowing. remained gas, wells, year-to-date soft We up which activity remainder this rig activity oil natural and and XXXX. for of in low production

recently million enhance our help expansion. employees. allocation, strong These support expenditure XXXX our we environment to needs, investments our as efficiently from for our our capital budget better new our the working operation. allocate as $XXX budget growth capital include to increased cash meet our by $XXX safety Turning to continue flow and our strategically to cash We of from activities, million generated and and customers' of addition equipment facility capital of and improve technology the upgrades well advanced the operations, innovative prior

opportunities processing a growth continue our to As margin new to identify to of value-added greater expand we initiatives, expansion promote and drive capabilities our part earnings power.

opportunities superior and business Though we strict and We're remain significant targets disciplined, look teams for service. to experienced criteria of of in selective the market. number also high-quality continue seeing management acquisition levels that customer with we of meet our

quarterly years. we earnings. pay strategy Through also to regular continue complement done immediately as to product now our activities, our be return diversification end-market and and our must dividend XX Acquisitions have consecutive accretive our we capital for

we believe XXXX. Chief past Reliance made Baldwin our innovative to to Tiffany Director. On I'd conclude, in we a Board We a like as knowledge of this October since information our we've recent welcome a & IT Company and a and new Lisa few extensive benefit of changes I at technology Officer month. implement having Lisa's experience experience Directors to Independent highlight continue brings as Information served of Before Xrd, XX technologies years empower as Lisa nearly business. wealth will

earlier following the of Gregg this stepped Reliance retirement Officer as the Chief Mollins Additionally, the of of end Board week. at from Gregg officially down Executive year, Directors

and dedication succession plan, to to his more As part a Board and Board the Gregg's for with Reliance. Gregg entire acknowledge of thank the service years the was concurrent I'd team behalf Reliance, at delivered of on like to than retirement. appointed On here of for I XX long-term

we to and our business our are tells quarter strategy results, on responsible of our capital. focusing third efficient summary, commitment stewards of In and which high strong margin high proud longstanding being of to quality,

During translated again to for which that business steeper proven were helped down our execution we profit share prices managers excellent earnings their in the to metal gross once I'd field of strategy in a anticipated, our margin, than strong and growth discipline. year-over-year. per declining us thank our sales period like generate pricing being our a despite

and fourth will Karla detail. the our delivering earnings our maximizing XXXX for value. in call today. review outlook I our shareholder Looking we to attention ahead, financial Thank focus long-term quarter third results on to you will now turn maintain your over more quarter and

Karla Lewis

the everyone. due mainly decreased from seasonality third and quarter of pricing in XXXX, to from downward continued shipments Jim, Net of along normal Thanks, with lower pressure. morning, good second XXXX X.X% trends quarter sales the

decreased sold in X% demand which the our to non-residential quarter of second due better down of compared X%, X% to to expectation was tons XXXX, than stronger Our primarily construction.

down price cost. of selling the expected sold of Our we per X.X% upon down fundamentals particular ton whose to due price for of weaker of steel pricing in to certain XXXX range many scrap dependent quarter X.X% products overall average our products to carbon sell second outside the was compared X.X% is

of continue quarter of was higher Jim customers by our performance by direct equipment. profit above and of our managers gross in the range field orders discipline our XXXX outstanding sustainable the ongoing to margin our value-added maintain focusing value for pricing third result investments XX.X% to This the providing more to XX% As through our in XX%. estimated on processing is a who highlighted, margin

reduces in the million LIFO resulting third in have we estimated use million. from of quarter decreased income LIFO $XXX fluctuating our increased addition, of our our metal year gross the the prices costs. full more valuation inventory than we margin earnings metal In XXXX, Since estimate of expected to profit of our previous $XX from method volatility

of in estimate income quarter record share of quarter of we expect in $XXX the million the of earnings LIFO of $XX earnings $XX.X diluted result share income LIFO per per in second XXXX to compared fourth quarter of current a income or or XXXX, $XX $X.XX LIFO given LIFO we million the million to of $X.XX As million recorded our And third annual XXXX. XXXX. income in of

XX, recorded full our This If LIFO as LIFO we December $XXX.X the prices were you of to year million of $XXX.X reserve million metal expense XXXX when recall, rising. XXXX. increased in

As case in has we of far profit time, been has the explained so metal each created the margin our prices decline, which first increased will in LIFO reserve three this income XXXX. the quarters earnings gross that has at as XXXX. decrease This and of

year-end from at $XXX.X reserve beyond $XXX With our of and margin metal income remain support will gross to earnings in million in which XXXX, LIFO expected available continue estimate XXXX XXXX to our to -- LIFO decrease is be current prices levels. and earnings year-end of our profit if in million,

Our reduction on a expenses expense and our of X.X% quickly million our conditions. the to Employee-related third quarter million from headcount respond represent SG&A of and declined of $XX.X expenses continued market SG&A tons XX% headcount XXXX to the with reflects approximately our control second ability by focus our quarter decreasing on cost $XXX.X X% to in sold. XX% reduction

Our up from quarter third quarter the the XX%, XXXX. effective of for income in rate was tax third XX.X%

to rate We of approximately XX%, the our from rate year state full XXXX of to be tax due year expect full effective up tax income XX.X% taxes. primarily for XXXX increased our

million attributable charge. $X.XX $X.XX which third quarter compared the per of restructuring Net to XXXX, $XXX.X included diluted and $XXX.X XXXX income or the was million, impairment Reliance or share of in $XX.X third quarter million, a to for

per Our in reconciliation earnings $X.XX of non-GAAP the to share found release non-GAAP our the diluted share earlier issued third be of per today. our compared of XXXX. earnings in earnings third can $X.XX quarter quarter in were XXXX, A

to The $X.XX end resulted million per income Also, This please in an $XXX $X.XX top share share. per $X.XX annual note $X.XX. the per earnings to quarter LIFO estimate would bringing our increase earnings resulted to guidance of above reported earnings in non-GAAP of well assume for LIFO income our share have of would our share of that $X.XX $X diluted third of range share per range. our guidance contributed per XXXX of earnings additional the in

as quarter share in the Our our quarter repurchases a due XXXX per third of outstanding of $X.XX fewer by share record benefited to third also per compared shares XXXX, XXXX. to earnings share result

nine with cash and a to strong of reduction months our the cash quarter XXXX we third million turning of We And $XX.X in XXXX to $XXX.X operations the sheet regular third quarter balance of our from and stockholders during XXXX. of of capital focused flow, the and cash dividend of for generated $XX.X invested million in million million first $XXX.X expenditures levels. inventory paid flow

of $X.XX capital billion $X.X In had billion during addition, quarter. XX, ratio we debt $X.XX a debt paid resulting total of down At billion our debt $XXX.X of and September million XXXX, the available total facility outstanding credit outstanding to our in on XX.X%. we net

executing capital We strategies are of continue our forward. to all on well-positioned very going allocation

Turning our about to in quarter We of fourth outlook. business the remain XXXX. optimistic conditions

We third fewer that seasonal shipping closures holiday-related a days excluding quarter. customer patterns, steady, includes to relatively generally impact demand normal end to expect decline will remain which volume and in compared of the the shipping due

third will be the X% quarter XXXX. result, we tons a X% estimate to fourth sold of XXXX As in of compared down to the quarter our

will metals XXXX. selling the of compared our price current XXXX to expect levels, remain to We $X.XX XXXX. the diluted also to that of estimate of be result quarter range expect average fourth fourth near quarter third in the declining X% Accordingly, for share of earnings per $X.XX which to overall we the in currently in non-GAAP pricing we X% quarter to

we and resulted family and exceeded by across high return of on end our our products our markets quarter in of yet of all are cash XXXX of priorities. earnings the with another flow employees pleased supporting Reliance focus of growth companies service significant quarter strong diverse very expectations. in customer execution stockholder which closing, Excellent results, our third In financial and strategic levels our

this call That you open at prepared we the for would time, Operator? concludes like questions. remarks. Thank attention. And your to to our up


Thank you.

comes first conducing Englert line of now the question Jefferies. We proceed Please will question. be a your Martin session. Our question-and-answer Instructions] [Operator with from with

Martin Englert

everyone. Hi. Good morning,

Jim Hoffman

Good morning.

Karla Lewis

morning. Good

Martin Englert

speaking quarter. the time your today So Based regarding seeing expected we customers with volumes get with outlooks, early by into positive expect what you're on to we're the also growth would encouraging you volume the their than going start to better were XXXX, on activity that see year-on-year?

Jim Hoffman

hope We certainly Yes Jim. is so. Martin. This

the downturn, Our we fourth guidance and -- third have quarter doing We see we tailwind. quarter -- our as you also reflects just seasonal base, on look again fine. some the had traditional can of they're but better-than-expected our customer kind

non-res going we The in good out of things there nice, knew quarter. were surprise, not some and -- a was fourth some good but things anticipate continue construction the bit really. on There we to

are it's So by of kind Usually hits, strongest the time quarter work quarters. and how next up. interesting first things year the Reliance's the second quarter

So XXXX. I again anticipate happening that in

Martin Englert

there. out detail moving you Could of the then implied I also mix, driving you of that up, for volume stepped the talk thing what the that volume categorized Thanks believe one and other volume was how what's forward? that trend kind category that's Okay. of in the And on about stuck there, outside quarter-on-quarter. notably expect maybe would kind categories

Karla Lewis

In XXXX? quarter-on-quarter talking XXXX QX XXXX of to QX you to QX are or QX

Martin Englert

to X correct XXXX of sequential X. The

Karla Lewis


what's that higher-end add. were some are fabricated sales. a recycled. there so value component category products in in also in scrap, that scrap of in So produces we Reliance our big to are able there a to speak Also When lot have our of

of So sales that. go scrap we strength within but grow the all really category, our continue into to fabricated those products,

we has that Some sales. QX, or over brass, other necessarily products, of We not have fab. in perforated year completed products. the we Also last miscellaneous been two but grown has QX other our consider the our to smaller metal acquisitions, copper growing there

have I the drivers kind value-added on levels than and just of our in other think there. in of are what a really but higher the value-add everything there, main processing mix we So of focus

Martin Englert

revise one gross I what increase would indicators If sustainable looking one, you could prompt that when to that could there. seen quick last range before while? detail the at LIFO for having for we've we here I guess you what a margin higher? or trending would are Thanks expect pretty your results Maybe Okay. solid you

Jim Hoffman

and we It I'm just kind a than took while more days, that. right do But we now something trend these of is are up One to the feel -- wake is feel trend going sustainable. of conservative. it us a should like it's to

So at that. we're looking

more to drive at customers value us more to to and that our more and we're and keep more added asking and We're looking our of and going continue more. also model do

and So about those good things continue it. to do feel we so

We the will be first to ones know.

Karla Lewis

continue seeing not we're expect anticipated We And by comment to longer do like we to incrementally said expect today. I the to based over doing. probably so that raise grow With someone that what the today. said, we on that we're think range, value call on but ready add to we're we've a term Jim

Martin Englert

the for Congratulations. result. thanks Excellent, and Okay. impressive very there color

Jim Hoffman

much. very Thanks


Our proceed question. with comes from question Goldman of your Korn the Matthew with next line Sachs. Please

Hunter Alley

Hunter Quick Sachs This me. Alley Matthew from one Korn. for is from Goldman on

much came there but shipments prepared bit more this? please in in is discussed surprised that little that I what anything a know you specific it than remarks, expected. So end bit most? you you better all elaborate could seeing market market the a is driving on little And in you you're your

Jim Hoffman

knew our non-res is little We mentioned there We've a tailwind. construction.

or have If there quarter able kind soil in just you you. North and call in we across on that remember rivers pent-up some There were the back the of was weren't and some were steel kind concerns the what the that America books unable we let's weather orders demand to to of stuck -- were get there ship. to second some and

little of there be knew is that. we a So bit to going

what I we saw. think that's So

quarter, continue the we surprised the be to. those really And that ones I'm would fourth not but if would doesn't that in -- I be wouldn't point

still Even to though strong. ratify the soon. like that Of course our I be GM think trying here automotive they're to continues continues strike,

first of now of towards more demand the end us so did you there some too. have quarter, than the but the quarter the pent-up in affected That

So not plays how we'll was non-res out but bit see a a surprise, huge a but that surprise. of

Karla Lewis

point that of point surprise non-res And I was Jim's of wasn't to it much a bit think a to timing. that -- because

So we've quite seen in and good, not our QX we're prior strong they I tons they were as think while as strong years. were

the QX So into much. decline coming wasn't as

Jim Hoffman

nice. a all going a are forget backlog up, but good my opinion, us. going be remains one don't in holding. about That's aerospace, and And prices one is going up say, for should Yes. up good that's good are those The

as us a good So for market that's well.

Hunter Alley

helpful. And or mean, it. very you're project that's non-residential, you. Got That's particular there particular that that any regarding seeing Thank any region then, is I the driving strength?

Jim Hoffman

of map, all the been It's kind long a No. period over all over, well have doing West. strong Northeast of for time.

facilities, doing Southeast direct. well, in not the XX, dormitories which more that quite XX We're spot the sweet suspects. is kind you number themselves, what No, usual ones the kind have businesses, if of Demographics institutional-type as high-rise project that helps. get continue drive to that up. our assisted as far goes living of will big universities, you, story will,

So those kinds.

big has around we and still kind map. But, spot good of happens campus-type last and for -- sweet that of projects years. to again, some it's years, the couple be The been the last that good in spot we those now were across our sweet there's our couple but right – and for been involved of had of is really we're that

Hunter Alley

That’s all of you. Thank quarter. and for the strong me Great. congratulations

Karla Lewis

Thanks, Hunter.

Jim Hoffman

Thank you.


Phil question. with question Please Gibbs line with from [Operator the proceed Markets. Our of Capital Instructions] KeyBanc your comes next

Phil Gibbs

know I morning. good hard. always and cutting are restructuring Hey, costs

some there markets the that mentioned in that third quarter. of end of that was in the you business? I at specifically the targeted Where of think, was terms Karla,

Jim Hoffman

we expenses. the our look our we right We that week-to-week company to we when know And We see thing. in and you look at run Phil, is our a month-to-month. do headcount, just at company. weakness going our the continue, weakness think we day-to-day

of think And a it's be when could we've Whether disciplined market. if same we for to call control, every or that. very be in go doing through it's going the it headcount weak, continued time. been inventory We're whatever, we long we'll And it's to comes to rightsizing. it period or thing

there that. have probably tough add all our I Energy some at kind is but but maybe a always has a the IT to little will cuts are, Even strong -- there. continuing of exactly ways tough, -- so… we Those innovation in tell were all been and for they efficient when to a be we'll always you Strong so when look going company-by-company, where and business, for it. market-by-market more it's up remain and we can even better good, just think that. to we continue type where provide bit, We little business invest look and we things. do investors value We're

Karla Lewis

a sometimes locations, expenses And Yes. in the geographic, just try in end quarter, directive keep shipment to with its new certainly it Phil, we market, in wasn't third sometimes line were our our day-to-day just profitability our reductions QX because rightsizing. or as in our of but we kind levels, didn't there volumes individual at each call said, any QX week-to-week Jim and out of businesses,

So was and there just headcount in quarters. hiring it. we more has little a quarter all commented It some been significant activity on and this

Phil Gibbs

just then, in strong migration CapEx maybe comment expect That for XXXX Okay. I the in capabilities? given you the last again And on think, trends be going to that. your of CapEx for it's looks based growth budget year, continued business to we the this million. like budget terms another of Should was date. case Thank $XXX the and

Jim Hoffman


at good is is we're we'll expensive a a And we our going, to The and there money going to invest new thing got it. to work, model invest. think right to do Phil. got listen technologies the out have so continue to customers. where the We we've We've to continue place

us more It's Our customers more stuff. to to ask continue are in do really that's and equipment going the innovative great really, available. to

there. continue we'll So to invest

raise on. we always we year maintaining just we but not. there's quality tighter we what higher but have, all equipment really can there the it's just, million that figured, have what maintenance maintaining margins, guys it's or you $XXX our call, equipment tolerances $XX on a million actually because even -- some have, always, we As It's

the out We're company own that continue we we buildings don't buy operate own. a We'll likes to mind. of. don't to that businesses we So

an you becomes when a estate Sometimes, do on for and it that. the period and invest we real some jump time to to in time at you clear acquisition once like hold in of

My continues of well expand which million growth, model business yes, to continues lot $XXX and -- so guess a that at maybe my we'll $XXX level, guess but to see. is We is million is, as our kind growth. can control continue grow internal favorite we'll that our do to have we'll and my of and, that spend, not it's We'll see.

Karla Lewis

And in just $XXX and Jim's year. XXXX in his We're We a the that now. we process in of opportunities that increase our CapEx once from to budget million comments year. the Phil, just budget some typically and doing mentioned clarify that $XXX really up that came million right during just script, the build he maintenance to growth was

So budget we talk what we'll on in February, XXXX you to guys be be. when you will again give better able number our to a

Phil Gibbs

that. appreciate I

high business I it. missed market, specifically the you. been weak. a margin know, I to very it's I think for It's semiconductor And

interestingly, now So, you're and it putting numbers any on right market without very good there, when a and tailwind if stabilizes? that thoughts up

Bill Sales

Bill. Yeah. Hey, Phil, it's

Phil Gibbs

Hey, Bill.

Bill Sales

pretty recovery to while As as maybe doing, look year. in that. maybe as will positioned been next well year. and we've us doing window well It we we mid-year We're like not for kind we bit. that time-frame the push start for get remains to but some had it it's come year were next rebound we QX for looking business, and as semiconductor know it it is a that until thinking will forward of still out said, seems that back we and We We probably slide we little into next well rebound where soft. be some still see so doing

Jim Hoffman

I energy of it add our products the to and has has a other in couple continue doing slowing that quarters that's that of and down down little that, just we know speaks our a this that down, you a Phil, been one a strength for is well. we've on certainly think bit, are markets now, can lot industry and a or been other and slower grow of that whole quite value stock have to lot that model but of –

Phil Gibbs


Just to Fastenal's gross margins on a that LIFO little interesting. note and and solid a fell were and stable so interesting expanded basis Grainger's bit your and

Jim Hoffman

That's good pretty it Phil? mojo, isn't

Phil Gibbs

rising. Mojo's


next Please proceed with question the line Seth Exane. of question. with comes Our your from Rosenfeld

Seth Rosenfeld

Hi, questions. have a taking I for the thank couple. you

First moving industry before inventory referenced pretty significant the there see your you've one Reliance past demand capacity construction, regards having construction broader leverage, construction to just now processing. With then distribution over With level. think in in picking existing to that and up related any I from from construction lag impact start expect could we with we might what upside shipments or capacity the assets cost needed? investments should please? further be historically Is there fixed excess

Karla Lewis

over through. of ability we've we And have you businesses. quarters to being was to about run been fact talked substantial X-ish talked volume volumes before. but prior up hear a hard bit, it capacity invest think were we've existing your to the our question, even fixed shipment We've in that in cost last our apologize, structure now additional I leverage about additional that those part years the I amount kind beginning in business our non-res of equipment about the and where Seth Hi, pretty of Yeah. value-added could with in asking we continuing still processing probably

still volume-wise well on those average volumes XX%. through, so probably we're we're of most doing going for down in in we're are businesses, those businesses probably non-res year on that the So the

cost our we So, have of amount decent could pretty current structure. still we leverage fixed additional volume that

Seth Rosenfeld

more for aggressive you. and seen working then large, a obviously well. to Thank release And capital very industry contributing in we've peers as That's QX it's for of centers across generally the great. service at destocking your year

Thank need former competitors on Looking Given working do that inventories comment sitting are you. unsustainably a too at into inventories? you And to sustainable across these essentially have new replenished cut lastly aggressively cut be some the peers we year-end? or then marketplace, of – your perhaps see low from level? their on capital is share who you any aggressively gaining expectations this

Jim Hoffman

the handle first I'll part.

spend competitors, worry worry as about do. doing. competitors a We worrying are far of our As We what whole customers time our what our don't about lot about we are suppliers doing. what our

As because far is that that. What do we customers liked to going never don't inventory as have are in our inventory, order of destocking I do anticipation buy. of we what term

don't do, reason, we XX% because supporter, I been that. do they North we've that carbon your but domestic thing and what to guys, not something of they a buy With domestically, when market, about American do. we're continue understand we and great inventory not our ours, to that's are that's offshore buy don't care is the we you're and to love that cash we always and going those buying competitors terms helps We do, continue their at that's for king know. with we domestic is a manufacturing the

destocking, about will Reliance and that just inventories don't anybody in I restocking, continue inventory. we I to shape and of else's fine know kind and So what is do, do we – do our

Karla Lewis

in XXXX. in XXXX. There in pre-buying the by a little heavy second customers how We was lot other had probably commented companies think on I Seth, did that, we And a think focus was felt we've as the speak about inventory and for reductions to with quarter I like the a metal I that of confusion are so year. little market a bought some on Yeah. we we've have of talked much

So we flow during generated throws be dollars QX throughout inventory inventory progress. been about little but from year the focus talked from Jim good third improvement on rightsizing just to We a we've some obviously had during XX. We quarter. of off cash making $XXX million some had reducing a level operations is had about, level, that also this reduction lower June from bit in a of pricing kind Part where the inventory. focus reducing of our we that, on of,

shape, of question We’re pretty good goal now but feeds year. we the remainder we’re turn from your not to inventory think so for close at and which we're the on working the our getting levels year in yet capital into

the volumes So lower working release fourth quarter. with in shipment we typically capital

cash year. operations. quarters of more very from expect It's would this strong already to been the we little So in a first generate three

off quarter. profit with with cash to continued the the expect generate shipment capital reducing maintaining we along expectation fourth profit working flow volumes again our us levels, gross good good our which So margin levels in level, for of do cash throws

Seth Rosenfeld

Thank Okay. very much. you


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Martin Englert

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Bill Sales

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Martin Englert

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Jim Hoffman

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Martin Englert

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Jim Hoffman

seeing the our is the think think we -- strength, demand we're that XXXX. will picture outlook in now We continue

Martin Englert

Okay. Excellent. Thanks for the detail there. incremental

Jim Hoffman



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