Precision Optics (PEYE)

Robert Blum Lytham Partners
Joe Forkey Chief Executive Officer
Dan Habhegger CFO
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Good afternoon and welcome to the Precision Optics Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2021 Financial Results Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions]. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions]. is event this note being recorded. Please now Robert Blum would like to to over conference the with turn I Lytham Partners. Please go ahead.

Robert Blum

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Joe Forkey

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Robert Blum

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Joe Forkey


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Robert Blum

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Joe Forkey


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Robert Blum

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Joe Forkey

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