AMBAC Financial (AMBC)

Lisa Kampf Head-Investor Relations
Claude LeBlanc Chief Executive Officer
David Trick Chief Financial Officer
Giuliano Bologna Compass Point
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Greetings, and welcome to the Ambac Financial Group Inc.

First Quarter 2021 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are placed in a listen-only mode. A brief question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. pleasure your my Ms. now is to host, introduce It LeBlanc, Investor Officer; Officer. Lisa of Claude Chief Financial Kampf, Head Chief Relations; Executive Trick, and David will to call turn I Lisa. now the over

Lisa Kampf

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Claude LeBlanc

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David Trick

morning, good and everyone. Claude, Thank you,

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Claude LeBlanc

the the in quarters. I’m we remain first all our focused for questions. you, quarter the Operator, momentum continue our of strategic priorities very progress Thank our pleased please to expect the call of accomplishments on We David. coming with and efforts open during XXXX. as


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Giuliano Bologna

morning. Good

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David Trick

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we So through our know and of we of the everything scenario incorporated analysis X. that into as

Giuliano Bologna

thinking then can Are anything in the you be which of REC there margin or terms on in potentially coming about that near-term will litigation and focused the any And and good. case sounds we hearings it. That the big about primary center there, up milestones largest there?

Claude LeBlanc

to case, two as the this following or could back just take Justice, which it the So through, to year the as hoping hope could from appeal date, meet come that as on opportunity few that this week we’re will we’re next trial soon that, point at fraud Reed we’ll have And early to the the later be in Department a of or we or expect could our XXXX. early – and then hear months. as be a with waiting First hopefully we next establish

Giuliano Bologna

that? there to the lines to one, other more liquidity for you’re to where out. of Then building one in keep is usage about Or you thinking do manage of good. business business some any transactions need adding you of beyond and side how the you of there capital how plan some you’re final just new and that the currently that capitalize looking Or on lines. about, excess may Obviously, think very assets, holding sounds That terms expansion that? company’s want is more liquid

David Trick

II it. on other touched de of in sort of other investments things, sort external I as capitalized most the set. But well potential at A Pillar of is in I are in Everspan But pretty addition regularly. novo couple There transactions say that, or some And this call looking sort that transactions standpoint, may from Giuliano. think a think at there. sector. terms talked There of think capitalization particularly is I Everspan, we’re looking of I Sure, we it really about make should we’ve operating Everspan of you at point. and to we’re transactions,

and looking transactions, opportunities, in of those would So types toward that allocate capital to that’s start-up be the novo, it’s future. really we – acquisitions third-party all other the de

Giuliano Bologna

And good. in queue. sounds That I appreciate it. back jump I’ll the

Claude LeBlanc

Giuliano. Thanks,


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