AMBAC Financial (AMBC)

Lisa Kampf Head-Investor Relations
Claude LeBlanc Chief Executive Officer
David Trick Chief Financial Officer
Giuliano Bologna Compass Point
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Greetings, and welcome to Ambac Financial Group, Incorporated Second Quarter 2021 Earnings Call. At this time, all participant lines are in a listen-only mode. A brief question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Ms. Investor Chief LeBlanc, Financial of and Executive Head Trick, David Officer. Kampf, Relations; Chief Claude Officer; Lisa I will now turn the call over to Lisa.

Lisa Kampf

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Claude LeBlanc

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David Trick

morning, Thank you, everyone. Claude; good and

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Claude LeBlanc

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Unidentified Analyst

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Claude LeBlanc

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Unidentified Analyst

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Claude LeBlanc


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Giuliano Bologna

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David Trick

more it we where managing thanks. are are past, we capital and comes do it we've when to in Giuliano, And we think But that opportunistic I will one are There I stack. there clearly initiatives we with is liquidity approval on. opportunities the get ongoing that are regulatory And capital the commented think into. transactions, an is issues to complex. context discussions simplify of around into goals more into come surplus capital certainly our specific to we comes – Rico really to strategic focus capital not our Puerto structure. want in getting that obviously When but have the come to management, into area to when deeply it too stated around say go it's continue litigation start considerations play. it – and notes, certainly to play multiple regulatory and regards There does also of

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Giuliano Bologna

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David Trick

have some be do beyond, approval. capacity. get regulatory we Yes, would I'll to [Audio call which Dip] it required we

Giuliano Bologna

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