AMBAC Financial (AMBC)

Charles Sebaski Head of Investor Relation
Claude LeBlanc Chief Executive Officer
David Trick Chief Financial Officer
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Greetings, and welcome to Ambac Financial Group, Inc.

Second Quarter 2022 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. pleasure Relations; your Officer; Claude Trick, Financial my Head Charles and now Chief Investor of LeBlanc, Officer. is to host, introduce Sebaski, David It Chief Executive call to the turn now will Charles. I over

Charles Sebaski

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Claude LeBlanc

and Thank to today's call. Chuck, you, joining welcome everyone

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David Trick

Claude, and everyone. you, Thank morning good

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made In par debt, and current outstanding, surplus which million on notes purchases several of $XX or previously accrued the million addition, interest AAC retirement of gain including principal $XXX million the we to mentioned of amounting generated of debt. $XX

in AFG turn for now million We also are remarks. closing of purchased brief investments balance back on basis, call $X.XX asset excluding which held cash, subsidiaries, At on receivables million to $XX per had of Sitka approximately XX, at Claude standalone $XXX notes share. XXXX, as I investments discount, June will the some and or net an AAC's sheet. a

Claude LeBlanc

we've made significant conclusion, key quarter advancing progress in our In this strategic priorities.

to see capital attractive very in business. to continue We our distribution deploy opportunities insurance

synergies supporting meaningful through future We our partners. infrastructure technology, expense and growing growth also the capture needs business opportunities and dedicated our see businesses our to of unit, across services distribution and existing

we this increasingly platform, we and core business, will segments, insurance be Group, distribution insurance our defined company's Cirrata. our believe P&C value strategic expansion P&C As by specialty the transition the business, continue and of Everspan two the

As a update progress to EBITDA in businesses reminder, by call for open the on the questions. models, these look growth-focused. new forward and coming to capital-light I our please continuing Operator, quarters. managed, you characterized are


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