Full House Resorts (FLL)

Lewis Fanger Chief Financial Officer
Daniel Lee Chief Executive Officer
Jordan Bender Macquarie
Ryan Sigdahl Craig-Hallum Capital
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Greetings, and welcome to the Full House Resorts Third Quarter Earnings Call.

During the presentation all participants will be in a listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded, Thursday, November 5, 2020. I’d now like to turn over to Mr. Lewis Fanger, CFO. sir. ahead go Please

Lewis Fanger

good and afternoon, you, everyone. Thank

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Daniel Lee

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Lewis Fanger

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Daniel Lee

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Lewis Fanger

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Daniel Lee

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Lewis Fanger

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Daniel Lee

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Lewis Fanger

That’s Dan. everything,

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Daniel Lee

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Daniel Lee

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Lewis Fanger


Daniel Lee

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Jordan Bender

Chad. How for on guys. Jordan are Bender you doing? Hi,

Daniel Lee

Hey, Jordan. Good.

Jordan Bender


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Daniel Lee

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Lewis Fanger

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Lewis Fanger

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Jordan Bender

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Lewis Fanger

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Daniel Lee


Lewis Fanger

Dan. Thanks,

have one last question. we’ll for So time probably


from Please go The next of from question line is Ryan Sigdahl Craig-Hallum the ahead. Capital.

Ryan Sigdahl

on strong Great. really Thanks, guys results. the

Daniel Lee

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Ryan Sigdahl

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Daniel Lee

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Ryan Sigdahl

trends and directionally October And Helpful. then here few the anything here? then changing first revenue, margins, days November, cost, in Good. in

Daniel Lee

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Lewis Fanger

Nevada is just actually... fine, too,

Daniel Lee

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Lewis Fanger

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Ryan Sigdahl

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So, anything else?

Ryan Sigdahl

That’s it luck. me, from on guys. the job Good Nice results.

Daniel Lee

everybody. Thank Okay. it? you, Is that

Lewis Fanger

it. probably That’s Yes.

Daniel Lee

All a right, afternoon. everybody. Have good Thanks.


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