Full House Resorts (FLL)

Lewis Fanger Chief Financial Officer
Dan Lee Director, President & Chief Executive Officer
Alex Stolyar Senior Vice President & Chief Development Officer
Ryan Sigdahl Craig-Hallum Capital Group
Chad Beynon Macquarie
Edward Engel ROTH Capital
David Levine MidOcean
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Good day, ladies and gentlemen and welcome to the Full House Resorts Fourth Quarter Earnings Call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I'd like to turn the conference over to Lewis Fanger, Chief Financial Officer of Full House Resorts.

You may begin.

Lewis Fanger

Thank you, and good afternoon, everyone. quarter fourth our to earnings call. Welcome

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those And of so was issue the on warrants yield for about implied date. X.X%

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Dan Lee

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Lewis Fanger


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Dan Lee

great. Yeah. That'd be


question Please take our ahead. first Ryan with go We’ll Group. from Instructions] Craig-Hallum Sigdahl [Operator Capital

Ryan Sigdahl

of Dan, and afternoon, on recent Good the Congrats licenses the success well. else awards and appreciate Lewis. everything and comments and as all

Dan Lee


Lewis Fanger

Thanks. Yeah.

Ryan Sigdahl

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Dan Lee

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Ryan Sigdahl

Good, Dan.

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Dan Lee

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Ryan Sigdahl

from One it Dan. last the me, to stuff, I'll Good one turn over others. then

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Dan Lee

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Ryan Sigdahl

Dan. Thanks,

Dan Lee

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We'll next Please take from ahead. Beynon with Chad question Macquarie. our go

Chad Beynon

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Dan Lee

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Chad Beynon


Dan Lee

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Chad Beynon

seeking It's compete of if And that's when it in the I during is are your talked the the won't have you is three over then Waukegan. speak, view still maybe who ask, line about the for state that licenses, you've in bidding impact? Chicago and you this state competitions, then still one really finally that that'll there's Okay. against But Chicago? that the of some noted now, the your there’re that -- affect you the to very to that and I license properties to that, Milwaukee. casino, believe new that primarily in I think, casino wanted I Downtown process constructed believe of and so closer operating, and Rivers little view

Dan Lee

we've in been years because for assumed a that would Downtown about. be it’s Chicago, was there talked Well, casino talked always that -- about

and naturally assume are Park, Arlington Arlington the projections was going happen. with a slots to in now to get there at $XXX Bears if be there'd So and so going original a also Park, you're there's assume that's building million view, We'd sometimes place you surprise. pleasant a Chicago you our not slots in long-term moving that that be

drive If anybody Rivers you have look go geography, at into Downtown to to get the those to would casinos us. past

-- And from so, I Chicago think, is. you’ve because quite of bit that, Downtown further a we're than Rivers

thing don't other was, market little look riverboats. may that -- quality competition, Rivers, us too. the be think it the It than at it'll on I much different had to sail to got if Chicago all have them. the So multiple Illinois a near the They’re other be to but us. kind low experience ceilings, of the XX you of And has anymore, aren't impact kind boats, they the of drew hangs Well, they are the smoke They're deck in casinos freeways. years They old river. don't a near on other rivers old. be in

of off get The And Rivers. on drive of you kind all get only to lane is exception casinos have two freeway so in to the to roads and almost the a often circuitous state.

you you to Now Indiana. of why go can -- part go that's

those a pretty which the they're all side Hammond Caesars Chicago right old Rock riverboats. the us. Indiana But Joliet, look close Aurora, off if on are giant to far Elgin, the in freeway. from freeway is Now But is and of has at the Hard place Casino, you

because nice place, expenditures. And talking about so they're downtown will a all Chicago, be big I'm sure

Ours the have is two the of there. lot us, going Midwest, in to the be we’ll of nice nicest between casinos people place and a

Lewis Fanger

drive from That us else. of yes, downtown drive bit that to a hike everything -- and traffic and a is with little

everything closest that to go tucked So tremendous that that at you'll casino is ourselves. and look realize map X.X where at that suburb, million a the nearby you people, said, we're -- the won't get itself quickly is nice bored, kind pretty benefit. up in really, but over Dan the all thing I in look by casinos, just is of about that when our northern location

Dan Lee

after before Yes. people, And both opens, at all. that million the casino X.X we to closest and math will affect Chicago be doesn't casino the

Chad Beynon

Okay. at finalized Thanks. And the this Chamonix the then, of I has percentage What's just point? what one bill guess, been last construction -- housekeeping.

Dan Lee

than but XX%, It's to the better I be that, haven't construction been than higher lately. I subcontracted Might with subcontractors. the guy believe, has checked

Chad Beynon


Dan Lee

and that subcontracted done means been work so. it's -- it's it's already already to, we've either But or

Chad Beynon

appreciate it guys. I Thanks. Great.

Dan Lee


Lewis Fanger

Chad. Thanks, Yes.


next our Engel Capital. from ahead. Edward take ROTH Please go question with We’ll

Edward Engel

taking on and question call. for appreciate congrats Thank you and Hi. again Waukegan this on all the the color

of there kind Just anything a supply kind lifted to and checked you dozen of just million last budget, getting back or couple inflation that doing the you incremental Chamonix chain time that there? all of like it that in. Was you're things looks on is kind versus like issues, CapEx cost

Dan Lee

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dictated million, in for. million. was that we Waukegan. sort by we budget of we what budget in Creek. Time it that learned Hopefully, of the have build tell, We issue $XXX And of what we we in taken it's will promised could $XXX increase but in Cripple but fat went you, expanded we that this to what side will build care thought not

Edward Engel

just fourth probably then where in mandates above be have guess things the some as or And lifted And the up change would color. Colorado that last kind of then of kind the Nevada? on you couple it fair the say and since Have quarter quarter for any the were quarter and first Thanks well? picked Perfect. to I hopefully, behavior were mass the weeks. they in seen

Dan Lee

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to required markets, think were masks. of They were wearing masks. our some the I required barely were where frankly, we wear they

were but they time the And was it they -- chin. were their wearing so masks, around down half

Edward Engel

color. the for Thanks Terrific.

Dan Lee

Yeah. No worries.

if worth. no what add, for our me where helps business that about complaints Let today sits No complaints it's you.

Lewis Fanger

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MidOcean. David Please Levine with We'll ahead. take our go next question from

Lewis Fanger

Hey, David.

David Levine

you questions. how Hey, Thanks for Thanks. Hey. guys? taking my are

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Lewis Fanger

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cost So more. it'll, again

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David Levine


And much then kind the the sense this think kind $XX $X business? that way I'm million Okay, million of was that's of was almost to to additional million million range -- My skins kind helpful. around the the points. how the if skin me $X correct XXX% that announcement these before add wrong you is skin frame passed more about Do do maybe how of revenue $X that to to which revenue, in and that that on might

Dan Lee

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which people business one and which of they're partners in for was for the the Mutual's Indiana they exiting our with had we of losing And were and did. office they even had exiting Churchill, are DraftKings they share website ended in some for who step Churchill had way of opportunity deal up years. legal guys the they in. the And with years money Mountain so this. the market didn't Colorado, to these up other did be The minuscule so is business, still been so betting and of kind announced a which embracing then the out is and there the online ball. are will they an They both And Pure business, when They had the California. disappointing and a View, step dropped other they're who

million, Churchill they access the Now, fee $X which from market was paid Alex over

Alex Stoylar

No, million no, million each. $X total down, $X

Dan Lee

the because right? total, contract. over We've of million had life amortize you only $X to the amortize that

So, we've piece of that taken a only small income.

to who -- into replacement significantly fee in more income. there'll players players another somebody We'll the sports find there valuable not Illinois which access And and a then else. there'll be it's the commitment get want back of new be others. and we'll than And with will license it. other for betting any be is is we market refundable. so And But are

Lewis so million the-- $X we was at a were from minimum. year And guaranteed

Lewis Fanger

fee you market $X include million the access if $X.X million without and the annual--

Dan Lee


Lewis Fanger

that's right. Yes,

Dan Lee

and there's know leaving those if confidentiality shrink two with but Churchill's But can't some hope lost pulling exactly one clauses six you out Churchill we them. well, of replace amortization, you we we've just you which to is. The out that's tell of each because said true, you so that contracts each

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shrink as replacement that north in $XX segment. and So, a a little million them we're if licensed. year But I'd not add we get the $X million a be bit on surprised could when find of then you Illinois,

David Levine



you gets which of replacement, XX. the north plus Illinois So

Dan Lee

will same something be that Churchill. if it replacement X Yes. there. minimum There is you out the from And on But than might the guaranteed they terms might X. are guarantee XX, be are less of say, companies as no March you be as there better, It be worst. go

clause, right I'd said the tell be happy the then you'd but Churchill but you number, it was to you because you've less to go X.X, If a-third on. you'd I was insisted But ballpark. be probably X, than what if confidentiality find a-third, replacements. in can't, from X

Chicago XX. and add of to you're and something to then you north back X close probably You're

David Levine

thinking but of XX? - I Temporary like something be I August, about high opening fair not like when like quarter season, exiting it EBITDA year, The year. kind would for so a -- XX, or thinking you you my that for wouldn't EBITDA for about talk obviously am then Would estimate a-third be around for of Temporary just the this Is about exactly last just it I'm for this the there just And question, The think for you're year, a this something if do -- there, times

Dan Lee

open because our we we X. were the assume month we uncertain that business with said, even we does zero, earned But existing first and assume so when can our month. that said, it's open full And the first board,

So or you temporary any permanent, you first When a let's July open you have casino, XX. the higher opened costs. much say it's

up employees, don't end hiring know jobs You additional really because employees their yet.

in And some going training of that, quit find they to turnover, out costs. to lot in do lot of really are a life a what casino a cocktails and serving they want and isn't save

Bellagio under make a you start two. its in money it control. lot of a So lot month not then, or you first did And money. of getting really Even don't make

money if month, you time that. So in $X you making you probably and And make then XX, nothing. much wouldn't in you're any July open, something by money assume October, start the not you September like July, a maybe August, get maybe making million to

up in can much how will So in much completely year and get ends depend we our this control. very exactly when open. not It's

David Levine

Thanks Okay. a lot, Dan.

Lewis Fanger

But wood, help that people David around that wrong, in right weather the get some of there on volume sheer seasonality. harsher and not over you we have winter are will knock Chicago. us that offset You much of can hopefully,

Dan Lee

also lookie-loos. you get And

first casino Chicago place, the how Rivers new where to long And forget who XX XX have You land pretty to open; people long the I in years want get now. see it's close to years probably. open -- new been how in

Lewis Fanger

billion making Yes. in year Yes. the they're And $X.X revenue, a by way.

David Levine

All right. Well, of Best luck. good.

Dan Lee


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within quarter, as good is, about third guess as is Your mine. that

and thereafter make opens But a in lot if our when get it They as in of X, month moving we And assuming and not much things open. we're then make then say you September, August. this some million that use quickly as to is money a exactly number. $X are can So in wouldn't -- they control. money August

-- So

Lewis Fanger

Dan, out. so close free it run time, feel that, to With of we've out

Dan Lee

hard. we're exciting. that's It's No, it. working I pretty mean,

we think and Waukegan game at great and us, got great had -- we I the we on for it a everything chops changer team a a everybody's right future, and is best in came this. of people And good gets. And you the is execute just it that as see five-year can It's It with that. once together fits Chamonix, now And right to need in time. you put perfectly. strategy as the size.

everybody. you, So care. Take thank

Lewis Fanger

you, everyone. Thank


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