Schnitzer Steel Industries (SCHN)

Michael Bennett VP, IR
Tamara Lundgren Chairman and CEO
Richard Peach CFO and CSO
Michael Leshock Keybanc Capital Markets
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Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Schnitzer Steel's Third Quarter 2022 Earnings Release Call and Webcast. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded [Operator Instructions] I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Mr. Relations. Investor of Bennett Michael Mr. Bennett, the is yours. floor

Michael Bennett

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Tamara Lundgren

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Richard Peach

with recycled an acquisition state-of-the-art and investments including of was recycling on Recycling, begin completed facilities I'll first Thank strategic southeast builds metro from which in the in a recycling acquisition you, of morning. establishes Georgia, Columbus update our purchase eight shredding operation Encore April parts metal Tamara our auto media of facilities, our center. Encore upon region October based operation and two of and XXth. good and on the Greater recent in other the area Macon, The our shredding including assets a heavy recent is Encore plant encompasses and Atlanta XXXX Recycling.

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Tamara Lundgren

Thank Richard. you,

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Leshock first of Instructions] Keybanc Markets. Capital [Operator question from comes you. Michael Thank Our

open. is Your line

Michael Leshock

Hey, good morning.

Tamara Lundgren

morning. Good

Michael Leshock

you're the when evaluating few seen use price commodity I you're at? to metrics volatility years, to evaluate you're XX,XXX less then million ask, given earnings your And the what in over purchase you the some valuations, timeframe M&A of wanted ferrous important to you five for said of for what normalized transaction? than most what had $XX do how look on on I think to And the tons, thinking about trying given more past looking just are we've M&A times going and wanted criteria fluctuations transactions, you that. Encore price forward ask historical criteria

Tamara Lundgren

by start Sure, generally. Michael, me addressing let it

of that look looking So, acquisitions through-the-cycle when and a on business valuation we light in at basis. at we're we're industry the in, and the

upon the an through really at the where it we're cycle. target when depends in acquisition So, are to looking determine cycle we

is, think that On Richard forward as and indicated in I is mentioned to seven. on the detail, historical Richard below multiple acquisition Encore X.X five EBITDA our multiple

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we've So, we southeast. tremendous now facility got leverage, creates And that anything that and to the want shredding to that? synergies facilities our XX add for facilities. support because us now a amount a recycling Richard, you that can have of operating in

Richard Peach

I'd got Yes. also Thanks your some question, we've that technology Michael. Southeast add the in new for additional is region. What

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Michael Leshock

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Tamara Lundgren


first then I'll one. don't questions. Richard, take And the take the why you CapEx So,

the is activity what any to Michael opportunistic steelmaking time. the in -- in be activity as point available that particular, first, On do industrial southeast of is M&A We in in very believe at tends the terms strong.

clearly that that's to new. and a And And that for region to long So, accretive acquire a is time. why shredder that's targeting were at the excited we we've relatively been identify could attractive we particularly multiple. a have quite opportunity well-positioned, well-situated that an

Richard Peach

add, I'd that Those October. that criteria to year greater ownership of Yes, of with our will are for acquired cost our one looking we more will than be full spend. that any made fiscal announced year any achieve is when we and giving of CapEx mentioned, investments that Michael, the CapEx And we new environmental to one expect future returns and be post-acquisition XXXX investments our includes results you than expected business, period me. on update likely we on the over an our capital

Michael Leshock

supply constraints, And given shipments on pressures? and inflationary cadence Could for you of you're just the seeing of of some by there? they to the in the your what easing easing, seem to at some easing logistics be that on as seeing lastly, Maybe strong the and non-ferrous talk the front Okay. to the me, quarter. logistical extent, evidenced you're least

Tamara Lundgren


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they that can you through adjust. coming those So, movements coming through see as

available. On the the been has unsteady side, bulk has freight and been

Michael Leshock

questions. Thanks my taking You got it. for

Tamara Lundgren

you. Thank

Richard Peach

Thank you.


this no turn am back questions for time. closing Thank Lundgren you. I the And Tamara to the conference in speakers, over will Ms. Instructions] queue [Operator I at seeing remarks.

Tamara Lundgren

the Thank forward October, stay In you. report in We your speaking Thank with fourth everyone, again look we when you interim, stay Thank our to well. and for quarter will safe you. you, today. time results.


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