Simpson Manufacturing (SSD)

Madeleine Crane IR
Karen Colonias President and Chief Executive Officer
Brian Magstadt Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer
Tim Wojs Baird
Daniel Moore CJS Securities
Kurt Yinger D.A. Davidson
Julio Romero Sidoti & Company
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Greetings. Welcome to the Simpson Manufacturing Co., Inc.

Third Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. that is note recorded. Please Instructions] this being conference [Operator to the Investor I turn over Madeleine will now conference Crane, Relations.

You may begin.

Madeleine Crane

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Karen Colonias

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Brian Magstadt

our good third Thank financial Karen, afternoon, you, I'm quarter results discuss with pleased today. to and you everyone.

like third begin, prepared be I'd financial stated, XXXX. discussed of refer that the otherwise in comparisons quarter quarter And measures the XXXX. mention of my all remarks I comparisons today versus will Before to year-over-year third unless all to

Karen X.X% Now sales consolidated million. to as turning net to $XXX.X our results, our increased highlighted,

compared quarter million, against primarily concrete increased which center consistent were margin through dollar. Gross due XXX decline On costs. XX.X% Europe product XX.X% in partially million, of another approximately total of sales foreign $XX.X at to at increased North sales in material price million, States slowdown. volumes, Wood higher benefited compared and currency aforementioned remained higher America to sales were by construction primarily to to increased also by currencies sales Europe, price an America some basis, at to address that in to remained by rising segment to $XXX strong gross material the XX% products increases margin XX% sales. primarily United a offset total increased XX.X%. in and the resulted profit products basis to increased gross home gross margin sales to points due in Within volumes XX.X%. our increases strengthening by construction due translations net year's XX.X% North partially Europe's also of took Consolidated quarter which channel. consistent related a offset sales third $XXX,XXX by effort $XXX.X COVID-XX resulting the X.X% effect primarily positive to costs, In last XXXX our net from the of segment,

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sheet balance our and turning Now flow. to cash

XXXX, XXXX. remained September ample operate primary available XX, of September million, Our day-to-day balance and September healthy our on debt line for cash equivalents remain free. sheet full our we to compared cash operations. XX, borrowing At of with to $XX.X million XX, And the as totaled and the liquidity million $XXX.X decrease XXX was credit

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we profitability result quarter XXXX. of million operations a generated improved and management, As strong cash from of third of working flow our $XX.X for effective capital the

dividends both as share we as Turning supporting providing remain well returns strong to allocation, capital repurchases. to our our of growth through business, capital to dedicated and stockholders the

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Karen Colonias

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Tim Thank At a question-and-answer we'll time, Instructions] comes session. from first be you. line [Operator with Our this question Wojs Baird. the of conducting

Tim Wojs

to is numbers true I the maybe if pricing up couple quarter? what you contribution North just from first could for start if, a Maybe piece America, was guess me. in in the the

Brian Magstadt

second That Tim. about was, give $XX a just me million, here,

Tim Wojs

What should once rate And a increases effective? you the four you basis look pricing that on run kind implemented? that quarterly price if you've fully would at be everything's Okay. is think kind of of

Brian Magstadt

just we've course, XXX got million I'd South, because is the the to recently it And the that to prior in was fourth took increase any that price course third all price effect comparing question, about increase. effect. that's of of took one Good very quarter. through say halfway

we But we're So makes quarters as lapping start going sense. them. with lapping no versus increase. fresh increases XXX in million, quarters start That to here, in all price

Tim Wojs

makes was on sense. down in That's a is I the indicate helpful. way business there dollars. That that how Okay. of kind to Thank And you. guess center home then, business, much

Brian Magstadt

So the we of was the to is early, position leveling it of down in noted. of a like amount. believe doing it year a last we of But a a had to, due due QX. end center a was it pretty pretty, perspective, pretty comparability load from good part some to Part inventory there was had also -- were, home good were the the August because leading up through customers during July, they they inventory quarter, was

was have $X tough going amount share of the inventory don't but heavy comparable a So due to to volume center channel. you. we're the that the quarter was in big Again, of that year we last decline in load believe, the with DIY projects the taking addition home to was place. because related leveling, also portion But in,

quarter, we end centers. And the existence, For that of patterns of home would expect purchases in we patterns basis, buying probably the more the more on through go through are normal the a forward feel of September. normal in

Tim Wojs

fourth of, see guess, volume look Has kind as Okay. kind it quarter? if you it you about that bit legacy quarter? sounds October look And look if grow I third numbers, into you what can as improvements? in down home did you your the kind by of Because started little at core to by like you've October, the of the center distribution of total gotten channel at again, and but or you -- was kind at like did a distribution,

Karen Colonias

in of fourth to kind we obviously, Brian some home normal bit in up in We're nice as business little distribution, the also. lumber months the Tim. a of slow QX, seeing pick but means as again, also mentioned, early, quarter, And we They saw become Yes, pretty more our we're distributors, also pickup first buying were early other October. through we're continuing growth seeing the in mentioned, September, yards. really contractor of couple of center that

Tim Wojs

you. Got

those today, the on Okay. able a the had been And months? orders? you've ordering, how is I to and question last customer been And on you're lead Has over in consistent lead just nine are has there times how last Where six times? pretty it changed lot fulfill of, lead ups then times to when of downs? quickly terms you Or

Karen Colonias


know, As large we you of is lead time very and differentiator product our think for -- a availability us.

a on if still differentiator was we're key times little XX%, there customer north a take So of that little that's that XX the longer, or mean product still order lead a something lead doesn't And time. a of in for bit we're of special on that a would majority XX-hour to north that a but us. XX%, running might

Tim Wojs


you with to lead need don't necessarily So over sense that times stock basically, the know they pretty or agree statement the your the in would that customers order are feel good. your

a their lot of are so end And inventory of build. for they're necessarily, demand sort market orders actually not of any reflective

Karen Colonias

the I mean, comfortable I say, would feel downturn, in still can expedited their to Yes. good fill a manner. probably, of XXXX inventory, say, job really in -- their a our product we since an customers that done we've they ever lot because orders need would I don't been able has

haven't to add we're really meet fill manufacturing hour we've in rate. inventory. with been needs able XX%, and again, change, to seeing those I credit at frame that of being able that, that's lean And do to time not our extra XX% and those customers that we think just seen lot a and So a like orders XX what customer


Thank you.

Our CJS next with question comes Securities. Daniel from Moore

Daniel Moore

of significant round all pretty any October over seeing pickup Are September, October? are fourth six increases. last months? in signs sound increases wondering, -- given price of price being the you to our at seeing obviously, of customers, XX we're doesn't like Just in impacted customers in the after multiple it your demand it, you But rounds band

Karen Colonias


and all of with price steel. Dan, in those think, course, on construction I focus anything we increases seeing associated we're materials

we've obviously, really been market we we've having been this availability customers that mentioned, for competitors been So with anything heard their us. in customers What's and supply heard of a appliances, get one our the associated, tight some product. us products. product the price We of driver doors like our best our refer from from see they'd think as to increases really I has from chain standpoint. -- some they suppliers always We've huge of really from garage that to they're

of our market So able share, in from say by it's been European pricing to to understand But easy get I to especially customers a much bit that the but standpoint, that we've thing rather little to being meet our difficult focus needs think increase market gained have price than market space not having salesmen really just and those increases. it's that supply have it's through. a issue publicized so price on why a It's a these in always highly so we're our inventory.

Daniel Moore

helpful. pricing And continue you to actual inventory of need procure, mentioned stage, the feel versus that you about to so strategically quantity? to does in I terms ability volumes, this don't just your much inventories levels, build but commentary your remarks, comfortable how It’s any this And at increased think reflect prepared in you do pretty there?

Brian Magstadt

Dan. increase majority related the Hey, inventory. is price on of the The

Karen Colonias

needs, Right we that job see. little still but our a would an rates, the as meet right balancing has out, a is I Ensuring purchasing from steel fill the making sure would bit able got it's steel too it maybe to steel but about having have continue but it's our slowed bit. done pointed I say steel to we've can that much say steel we not now, group have see if increasing that excellent we decrease you hasn't we little -- price slowed be again, has those that any industry of down now. act customer come then we pricing

that continues. just we'll see how So

help. would there in is first coming that quarter, I It we're I inventories. will things being new customer that come as now anticipated very as that how mills online. trying steel sure to volume have some industries see late there. think well for them, product go most steel people, cautiously And think think needs fourth But we'll to quarter for we balance it's most supposed was online from

Daniel Moore

of particular just seeing you the as your any competitive could areas Maybe building that revenue positioning you in country, impact around over years? in the and codes more kind just Perfect. one level, changes high any are standards or coming look potentially

Karen Colonias

of owners this actually, building kind a We meaning I have had that they're continue we standard of to quite early versus a think rent Resiliency, to rent but they about us life those resiliency that it. concept, long as to those safety to build on buildings some is a building hold for this standard. to going of contact time on

so natural And any after be occupied building want to to be able the they of disaster. sort

tip a happens starting interesting because standpoint. more of just versus it's built So content a but this. on of house seeing house built our into quite what put typically, iceberg resiliency that's you of from standpoint, with the a would the for us, it from means a life safety And just


Thank you.

D.A. from question next comes line Yinger Davidson. Kurt the Our of with

Kurt Yinger

about kind Just increase to QX. the strong starting of after think back prior the operating in off, range we the outlook, the when margin

of of increase. price expectations, like benefited the volume at were four biggest your you to pretty relative and what quarter curious, it least challenging hadn't yet the kind in terms Just the in upside the because sounds surprises was from performance

curious, just what than So better expected was there?

Brian Magstadt

and a it Yes. what then, start then, of year, is think bit through also through that. the the little would the Part expenses of saw of increase associated in balance the projects strength the price the have the may timing more balance of And margin. trajectory relative year. European we use of the continue the inventory, to of And

give our end. three And and six high So into end the bit months mark, year, months insight an yes, back margin -- under end more estimates, at in left with the operating belt. month that just we a obviously, that up little only high to low some bringing were additional making of there three us

Kurt Yinger

Got it.

premium kind Okay. than And does position where has competitive that And your more value perhaps the it's in then, into seem price time of currently, been pricing a had historically, so inputs meaningfully? past? at factor rising relative it and with consistent a would so to Is even the around Is when peers, your where there process Simpson you've is are decision-making that today? how been historically? price positioning proposition

Karen Colonias

you And product. mentioned for of a that key point Kurt, to I the provide the think, us. services we From standpoint our

time that's as premium. customer talked all we on don't outside want SKU ourselves. and about, on engineering service we as mix, about, the sell our we we to inside talked pride Again, that our and team, talked delivery, pricing sales we on well really really we our price, the we're probably have large sell I that vendor that about have say As both want it's as product. I services customers to see where as because what's we you want down this supply availability pricing never didn't differential And would I that the we of is in jobsite the place. customers. mentioned, to those And really chain. available our be tight for appreciated to think key of today, in still as well been product shuts times a We

Kurt Yinger

sense. Makes Right.

hear in for curious for just remarks. prepared years. guys, Okay. at a from But sourcing whether last overseas you least one been just the me. I last it the in And challenge didn't few then I'm has

priority? of capabilities been you a production build would interest, M&A out that's that's that you think still organically? something to I America, everything fasteners have or on, North is where that going maybe is something look can given been And something

Karen Colonias

question. Yes. great It's a

to fastest have has other the four offshore, years. last time months a growing buy we typical been three get business is in been six and product. fasteners, Taiwan. XX% for A lead facility year probably a to to before mentioned, over at our manufacture this of would domestically We basically, of As one maybe XX% about Simpson the we've three our our fastener

on running And Taiwan. of difficult We XX months time products also certainly now XX it when out having are about hand. very lead think those to on we that forecasting inventory makes about that and

and as about of either product. very little capabilities less we're more of talked the out trying to a control organically, in we on that acquisition past, or of dependent So product through buying manufacturing in our grow interested that

our it's certainly, radar looking that we're So on for. something and constantly

Kurt Yinger

would Or it at of I need that greenfield space kind where, be to something a guess, -- location? the do were it facility? And would if you extra you existing to organically, have be do

Brian Magstadt

Well, a locally within an local had Kurt, that manufacturing that of factory, last -- that U.S. for in stood lot have up the the of existing over number we manufacturing additional Karen here that. mentioned, years, the the

move those a we in-house. lean things bring been around that we've do lot where that the to may to we're we're and utilize space, also need best to the it that footprint some and perspective, an into A getting doing from may to able As of things in. that facility can. that point advantage we we But of add to that locations take we production inflection try hit

that to quick build of So -- you've about up the we significantly like of would but customer some continue to respond we been facility. needs. talk local investments production us local able to amount be in this always need heard we production will to to And we has grow if make the


you. Thank

Sidoti with line the of from Company. & comes Romero question Julio next Our

Julio Romero

America lumber of different have into than then So drivers, constraints. little in mentioned North yards. home volume and the those home decline more more you the channels, I then mentioned the own supply to believe the happened may wanted that and because been headwinds of stance labor channels their centers. centers. I in dig a drove cautious in what in contractors a There some Think you the other

you a issues was I little So speak labor more in you've those supply at all? to those And alleviated hoping if that. seen and channels and could have

Karen Colonias

heard certainly standpoint. question. construction and great And slowdown our the some saw customers a in from it's new that Yes, we on of

Just that windows, doors lumber, lumber issues, again, because of but be appliances, down, faucets, high, was complete it unable structures to matter didn't gone of supply whether the complete pricing pricing because, chain unable structure. is sinks, very or which one really now but of to

so that space. And that in definitely we saw slowdown

out as seen seen looking September. now have in we've markets, quarter far, we quarter where We so And buy as at just uptick an of in fourth uptick home an with early are also. October, in we're third that we came center those as in

Julio Romero

is wherever you've I in centers, percentage basis extent to that to or the Great. guess either the say that? seen you take on on that would want And you uptick home same a --

Karen Colonias

from home the is the our I pretty think mean, Yes, defined well know, cyclicality we center as when think market and of you also standpoint. I

a there normalized our the would we're is as what a if such as what distributor I say both would call So well from seeing lumberyards, see a I in a thing, normalized we uptick -- center. contractor, home

So nothing at anomalies, unusual so. XX least -- no or in the last days

Brian Magstadt

the to period. same relative that's And prior or

Karen Colonias

to Right. QX. Relative


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