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Participants
Ilene Fiszel Bieler Global Head, Investor Relations
Ron O’Hanley Chief Executive Officer
Eric Aboaf Chief Financial Officer
Brennan Hawken UBS
Alex Blostein Goldman Sachs
Glenn Schorr Evercore
Ken Usdin Jefferies
Betsy Graseck Morgan Stanley
Mike Carrier Bank of America
Jim Mitchell Buckingham Research
Brian Bedell Deutsche Bank
Marty Mosby Vining Sparks
Rob Wildhack Autonomous Research
Gerard Cassidy RBC
Brian Kleinhanzl KBW
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Operator

Good morning and welcome to State Street Corporation's Second Quarter 2019 Earnings Conference Call and Webcast. Today's discussion is being broadcasted live on State Street's website at investors.statestreet.com. This conference call is also being recorded for replay. State Street's conference call is copyrighted and all rights are reserved.

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would to I Investor Now like Relations Head Bieler, at of Global State Street. introduce Ilene Fiszel

Ilene Fiszel Bieler

for section is Good second earnings Thank Relations today operator. the quarter our CEO, will our XXXX Eric O’Hanley, available slide investors.statestreet.com. in Afterward first; Ron On Investor you CFO, you, Thank will our you all take for our website, joining download morning. of be questions. call then Aboaf, which to happy speak presentation, us. through our we'll take

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Ron O’Hanley

Thanks, good and Ilene, morning, everyone.

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grow by the quarter At same to the of continues pipeline another as evidenced client engagements. time, increasing

increased anticipate an CCAR the return sheet actions quarter second our to shareholders. as of while under common our increasing share repurchases XX% the in proactive to our to dividend XXXX of in we our billion test, performance Following conducting ability strong the by stress contributed through capital quarter, XXXX $X of XXXX balance third level

We believe servicing currently returned front-to-back long and positions term. well in continue we yet And may stabilization our in us medium to we seeing to some strategy be not the growth. for have while fees, success

fundamental a updating conducting will as of technology we reassessment and sharpening business core well be strategy such, our As our as ecosystem.

growth, on established have non-personnel reducing accelerating reinvigorating teams to and of expenses. revenue focus model, operations simplification We our the

believe these delivering a progress urgency we we areas. with time, culture things with can in same the act while client control execution industry-leading on service. to attention the to reinvigorated making we At continue are productivity fostering and of I

staff very of has that a and as to the increase have by be freeze continues disciplined number that to For outside already more of expense reduced effective. all actions expect location priorities, by CRD than year-end. my X,XXX one been for example we noncritical high-cost result we Year-to-date hiring roles our headcount top management of firm-wide X,XXX can

total even better program outcomes we delivering gear, full in year-to-date for $XXX we million achieved Process expense additional clients. already the $XXX savings $XX for are year-over-year Furthermore, our has $XXX under automation and over January efforts service headcount by million are XXXX. million now in targeted just to the program savings us XXXX and announced while an allowing decrease million in expense increasing saves to our

for to and none. Our trading, now in means achieved the are model. executive right leading securities to in reignite using revenue is completing pricing we better restart increased in our servicing, to we rollout, ways wave focus client finding optimization and and while growth pressure, capacity lending improvements where second our manager additional operating coverage surmounting the asset alternatives driving expense balance and reductions, have sheet of ETF and growth This generate sustainable addressing

these vision becoming client in segments, a to our but and the we the Our the owners we most capital. insight and way. are scalable servicer, aligning provider with and asset the I for clients manager managers organization of more better holistic continue the am to attractive serve data remains strategically find and and all confident fastest-growing ways leading to world asset must

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our stack, outcomes are such client as reduce technology and leveraging processes in organizational number operating and better cost. reengineering increased partners by order to lower while service. There our are IT examining, continue a automation of delivering create model areas simplifying efficiencies, client to our complexity across through must industry-leading drive We at to we while our technology

being opportunity hubs leverage on an resource global process drive while have efficiencies, discipline. to also improvements and expertise We constantly our further focused to within

will these we in and of team initiatives fall, reassessment strategy the and I drive As technology including a updates my progress forward, provide our plans.

the to over take it turn Eric me detail. let that, through you more with quarter in And to

Eric Aboaf

and good everyone. morning Ron you, Thank

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client the less moderated XQ's pressure were Unpacking results, XXXX. industry the during that, taken business with headwind. somewhat X% tailwind, While levels flows a fee was client a new market challenging of quarter-over-quarter pace drivers conditions than persist XQ X% net were sequential together of quarter flat servicing slight pricing estimate activity and positive, a the we while

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other efforts -- terms to initiatives going this drive side, supported incremental total the opportunities In wallet size while diversity our quarter deposit deposit growth our client going ongoing balances including of client additional of of careful earning of And our we discussions that the of asset share and forward, on sheet initiatives drive average target confident underway These base are to our growth. series to deposit investment in deposit balance there priorities balance the have and on continue portfolio. available increasing forward. we lending modestly we're a

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program criteria assessing development payback against straight investing We ruthlessly are now functionality. every client while in

and totaling of our in see underlying expense to notable year the million XXXX plan CRD target compared identified X% we $XX yielding X.X% base as our the a expense year-on-year items and in reduction XXXX, together, end savings Taken an this resulting for additional million earlier year. the by $XXX excluding now

Moving to slide XX.

of ratios consistent to CETX Our cycle. with of $XXX a of We were our quarter, share buybacks the largely under returned again standardized million from authorization during approximately shareholders capital our last total sitting which capital quarter-on-quarter X.X%. the XX.X% million $XXX CCAR leverage our X were Tier remaining at and at

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I position on going rules proposed forward. capital in confident perspective ratio would our sharing note any changes the capital a as fulsome position. leverage finalized, that And associated we anticipate we our more and opportunities are optimizations are

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step-down similar revenues seasonal are we we to take difficult expect a market quarter-over-quarter forecast, them months, year. the what currently always While experienced to given to last summer

be Processing $XX ex-CRD fees the be expected low expected quarterly million to CRD of NII, sequential to lower sequentially, still $XX deposits interest-bearing expectation to cuts rates In regards of long million guidance and two the into of down is X% rate but continued currently and in rotation given others we down X%. to with within our be XXs. expect quarter NII to to

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our to XX. on Moving summary page

result see our with fee unsatisfied performance, revenues some fee remain we we total servicing moderation did quarter-on-quarter. that While headwinds helped revenue in flat in

reduced also to headcount raising this our we've to now million. a we've XXXX expense cost the target our submission as reduction we'll to on to achieved CCAR to further year-to-date, $XXX expense we be able deliver and X% savings And of demonstrates return our shareholders. priority non-objection underlying year's the increasing Moreover, achieved bend capital ability curve, to date while

fall look noted with in Finally, technology the remarks, We results as current be updates in you reassessment. our of back his we'll the on business coming our to to Ron and strategy forward progress. providing opening our

Ron. with me call that, let hand back And the to

Ron O’Hanley

can Operator, questions. to we Eric. Thanks, now the call open

Operator

Brennan [Operator with from line question UBS. the Instructions] first Our comes of Hawken

is Your now open. line

Brennan Hawken

and Good are doing? How morning, guys Ron Eric. you

Ron O’Hanley

Brennan. Well, thanks

Brennan Hawken

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should And balance but so, sheet about overall -- And should your you we I balance beta continued are for what that's referenced embedded about Thanks. about just assuming you think in expectations there? deposit non-interest-bearing rotation, how think growth continued overall know think you I that how we -- referenced growth? and for

Eric Aboaf

Brennan. Thanks,

give NII the on industry been of know, direction them. the of NII you a that on direction as bank. as kind dependent the components the is Because working maybe Let you different each both features through one several and as we've -- an me of some and

progression. expect some do that interest-bearing is wait on expected deposits interest NII. We're we to we'll non-interest-bearing continued the relative to of first, over into where down extent they downward so investment see continue of some and been the the years So were this past rotation net cycles quarter you rates where from long -- last to seeing they've reinvestment couple and is portfolio

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equilibrium deposit at an When it specifically comes we're almost betas to point.

in in deposit low as think the and XX% within range significant XX% XX% a the floated quite you about the NII and XX% If were betas tailwind rate Fed it banks other there and the the now the cycle, for us They range. XX% early betas XX% were to to raised and range. was to rates upright so

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that's provide second continue obviously, some the rates evolve. quarter quarter you a give But texture anyway we'll to on enough to third as some basis. color And hopefully

Brennan Hawken

the That's to Thank helpful. you lower the the to of billion expenses that excluded already on as Okay. outlook. is in more first $X.XX still encouraging Thanks. reported? expenses? on that thanks movements much It's is When which there. think we And expectation see the how expense results update XXXX billion for much then to I which provided for you. really about in really some operating previously provided CRD the And And that assertive comparable how believe $X.XX the is come? half you've

Eric Aboaf

way. that a me kind in do Let fulsome in of

I the been year-to-date. on $XXX progress think good. logged has program the million So, expense We've quite

was are a we $XXX confidence we taking anticipated additionally of why initial out and million able and it taking up. We being -- only of hit by that's in that -- that target that but it up have lot not to

while an us we've one that's to is COO in a we're use that the way I what And X% effectively the it's a to And consistently in because what of of progress for headcount seen used actually of we're we've in we were reversing at growing how widespread do prior addressing that X% our begin finally is described automation of seen in way. automating a growth automation the our we're And used part at is result conferences headcount. you've ensure is industrious And think the actually I think tools. real several on a seen now scaling year and some recent as years. year what

of because quality do in are processes even deliver once straight the actually you levels And and actually higher service fewer you and the mix that better and you through. need people effectively

done year, to the it apples-to-apples for relative guide, we've XXXX. expense overall the On

you notable I it's are CRD-related think quite -- the expenses. ex that Brennan the in underlying and expenses footnote we're items clear that see

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Brennan Hawken

you've point million therefore versus right simple? already the million is last now is lower how about $XXX Is is much about the that to versus be it difference that go prior to expectation the target difference -- sorry million done just the think of already you've reported. then way the expectations? new $XXX $XXX just that the got left Is And your

Eric Aboaf

the exactly. I've Yes we're headcount Yes. operating the Yes in some at quarter on said second of changes. because and think which ahead that's we're amount our of the as I of rate of the run plan

had described in location had reductions we high-class we that example the headcount XXXX For year. for targeted

months We've there. so of run feel the already is just the confident to in full we gotten the will what And give us savings of XXXX rate in of ahead year first benefit six the we're is kind that $XXX million. plan

Brennan Hawken

for Thanks Great. taking questions. my

Operator

from Sachs. question Our comes Alex Goldman Blostein with next

line now Your is open.

Alex Blostein

Hi. morning, everybody. Good Great.

that pricing we've to of you investors Eric, I for start expand was on the sort historically Obviously, for given bit? the starting couple the around that you've seen of a little is the servicing. moderate. sign important last we decline seen hoping question sort you X%-ish business. quarters pricing I So a with over guess, in to that a annual it's pressure servicing Can of talked obviously pressures mentioned line pretty item. about

should that given Sounds sort persist to of But, seen we pressure is it's pricing we How XXXX? to quarter worst to running about historically? for kind think Or you like it? compression have we've recently other couple think of that we expect X% pricing of of rate? like quarters. guys should X% changes about the that In next closer might or the run through made you the are so this been normalizing X% the words back that beyond

Ron O’Hanley

Eric Ron. I up. start pick can Alex, and this is Why don't

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driven had Secondarily, to XXXX get XX% was clients I we have in I than this some when think more just of it a it big the last year, look gee, run-up was and like would somewhat check to wrote back. XXXX you it you the the and and by check in see, seems guys markets

what So we're – extraordinary is what moderation what saying the seeing that pressure. call price we're I that, of

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mitigating effects the driven re-pricing lot of it. that already; we've of say this we accomplished actions So be business basis in there extraordinary that to in ongoing price and both and you from price can a competitive what that fact a I would is that it the of continue seeing but be secondly pressure, our by element will are to expect qualitative own of kind moderation

Eric Aboaf

Eric. it's Alex, And

the that, some that, of things it about headwinds X%, just add here so the kind beacons me decade, X%, I'll history with over X.X% of is So, the keep quantitative right? last, operated to this fee to business call straightforward. normal to of Let say

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describes, our to – we're us And are of is but not or Ron of closer pricing only amounts majority the as wave. imagine area-by-area, what to through own devoured moderate. than and to starting three can you unusual, of an usual hitting that see kind I'll larger client-by-client a quarters as describe what we're we've that And of starting discussions, data are sequential this as

that revenue like As – – was the back – first quarter. the accruals, to was those to peak the towards the quarter end the period feels some peak this time beginning is And the our level. normalize or the of hit we – in it expectation that is

those third clients, some transparent may can and negotiations opened where what about so quarter, we're So got we're visibility our large in are what we of tabulate Because with trying and we happen and We've fourth to have be we quite the seeing. right? amount quarter all you into will likely know those. forth, with pressure fee

some some we're here. confidence that's that, seeing so – gives what signs us And of of moderation some

the X% year-on-year we that to expect this it year-on-year? we seeing that it I what to we as after be this down come of all year, the at coming year last saw start pace we're down, of – to X% moderate. careful Does being think X% want year-on-year that

that learn where then, That's ideally into see, also what that's have balance coming forward think, normalized to Ron described, finding see work the to -- quarters. as we but I to And, in we more further more it year. we to like visibility the we level. some need to some as ways, and expect in need And back we'd move what to down actions. And comes to we'd we'll of our like in

Alex Blostein

Thanks That's clear. it. that. for Go pretty

some And the Secondly, how hit all on in of period Does that of the trying the the think million. $XX CRD. or of flowing bookings over about was you wanted guys model. subsequent that I'm the intake to just sort through order think into up time? quarter new quarter described kind like in we Looks you or to follow around should about

And you And haven't pipeline economics Lazard, the could ones sure describe or the should about revenues obviously, hit of opportunity? growing? that of will we if but on thinking front-to-back think terms the sort rate, we that one that pipeline be some how of AUM reference it in that guys initiatives of you also should yet. not the about the times frame How around of, then, highlighted, the be like, fee

Eric Walter

describe we the our able Alex. then that. expectation at on And business lines When different that years. pursue and X% from we that is this about was did described deal we CRD it on over few be me to Let line CRD-specific two top our and with the decided last double revenue the should you, that angles, to be diligence growing shared

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confidence of kind and think to bit it we're that way quite one of that's we've a So got seeing lift. that of

and are, size. bookings revenue you what roll you'll X, XX give basis, get tactical we a see months. rate to Those implemented a an on bookings is of the bookings. on and what begin quarter you various to saw through a X, timeframe sense tend in think I The quarters just describe, implementation to run basis, for this

of some takes time. it amount So

think portions right, one, other those it the where that remind business, obviously, they're CRD the this bookings substantial our I that operations. internal then, -- an our through is used to I bookings where out servicing the actually And old now management we one to with just business, in And with actually spike. you quarter systems asset were in rolling offer custody that CRD bookings our a which effectively engine did And business. servicing our have clear two we're are pleased larger, compliance was replacing of we --

will if revenues you those it, be eliminated on in hand, about one think consolidation. And

in manager. on had the platforms a, such we've for those synergies, fulsome systems would expense not on -- asset the I those legacy actually the On hand, way, CRD think, patchwork we other we that that to of large those on been typical lead XX revenues have implemented direct because described

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Alex Blostein

you Got very it. Thank much.

Operator

of Glenn line Our comes question Evercore. with from Schorr next the

Your line open. now is

Glenn Schorr

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rate and sheet So grows? Because my all expect question expect is, You much. What do now side picture loan you the as what some you do changed do? do the spread that balance balance some you the asset hasn't growth. on growth,

Eric Walter

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Glenn Schorr

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Eric Aboaf

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Glenn Schorr

Eric. Thanks,

Operator

line next of Jefferies. Usdin the from with Ken question Our comes

now is line Your open.

Ken Usdin

just Eric one the morning. duration of changes Can Good within faster how is securities recent investments? Thanks. today -- us follow-up just sheet. in the repricing? you the on remind balance after some the And stand the and Thanks. just -- portfolio where on

Eric Aboaf

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Ken Usdin

very And than year, you CCAR last then you successful my Got Eric, second better. XXX question, meaningfully points that result, the guys had basis less it. burned

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Eric Aboaf

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Ken Usdin

a Eric. of color. Got Thanks, lot it. That’s

Operator

Our with comes Stanley. Morgan question from Betsy Graseck next

Your line now open. is

Betsy Graseck

Hi. Good morning.

Ron O’Hanley

morning. Good

Betsy Graseck

points I lot the wanted I'm thinking in you're of a the You of to just drivers to that be pretax in dug expenses a the just trajectory. coming XXX you're basis the inputs for. given bit when little that basis picture points sense thinking expecting And in terms that that now into about bigger from XXX versus understand how of is going right looking margin you revenues, about have How of today? the the of much you're expenses improvement

Ron O’Hanley

see revenue of it experienced first that end the that later. actions of of last revenue will mean, you But client keep high of margin because the wisely longer-term like about the to then a I move terms had improving a we we've ongoing that while cautious to down to and that and pressure But ensure provide environment as result that remains at levels. the is to we're what little given front-to-back bit some that on work, enough about in margin as to would uplift investing ideally the both. the need And we expenses. are downdraft particularly service the that that we is we well in business. we doubling going don't that I as why that's are feel expenses revenue that do this Betsy of start flow think that, continuing that We our now that be year do the we have want taking in at to fee way the we'll we

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so, can focus And which what expenses. is we we know on can control we

Eric Aboaf

it's doing And to I that just to and more we're part of continue Eric. expense add is Betsy, would through a work more of what the base.

earnings One opportunity. full you and more year we've where more there's deck are we that lot like on page shared the actually we of expenses the process is the in made a reasons, progress and with where show to where in you feel we

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Betsy Graseck

see this know I you positioning your we just feel for any securities opportunities optimized with, you for the current or securities. earlier But to like, where a right about out is Thanks. outlook? conversation Okay. now rate Eric, at we wanted do And that just book round restructuring, had stage, then it is

Eric Aboaf

a pretty in is book securities the think overall. position I Betsy, good

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Betsy Graseck

Thanks.

Operator

Bank of Our next question America. Mike comes from the Carrier with line of

is line open. Your now

Mike Carrier

more the Thanks that be you may FX, by you did for think I questions. given morning. mentioned for some Good one, balancing CETX clients Eric, there's do last demand think taking capacity repositioning maybe and I first see year. some of the you the

in see Just -- areas? are you those seeing that demand? And soon how could we some growth

Eric Aboaf

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created you're it's place providers than serving room about back go understand, shifting refinements, structure come innovations Because clients on. those some that, do in I right, And appropriately task, some and some put reason growth counterparty right cases CCAR with we to that of clients I and the think the for business. them of better current they even clients optimizations reduce also we back And the pace and think, some they that and doing all the part had back of I but constraints of as actually their But about out I've some fine, question the then of say, our described open when constraints right? activity that after came that that trade takes counterparty caps over some is, delighted some time, them of you to as implemented or wallet. diversification comes and time. their then around having where the you are

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Mike Carrier

on And update then the the That's in reassessment helpful. and just quickly Okay. strategy the tech just ahead in fall. the

want Just to make partners, or as make in that the expectations are an focused got initiatives -- growth on innovative with get terms I that expectation is it's we'll sure what you update on anything thinking want But when you've sounds sure and it like set guys just any there just to cost. like of on?

Ron O’Hanley

Mike Ron. Yeah, its

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invulnerability about transaction talking amounts system, you think speed will you're of our if resiliency. and about high back-office and You basically

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Operator

with question of Buckingham from the line Research. comes Jim next Our Mitchell

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Jim Mitchell

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Ron O’Hanley

this we've had here the get access is, it rely been for or I about I throw own that's would quickly that is Yeah to -- how actually think on, client way what is away focused do that is on been operations? have become so cost? always a intention let on How reduce client simplify far an I be my business. able And do what those succeeding not this pretty my actually add-on data do not And the how our Jim, And been more I conversations. that to easy on focused to the and custody data? just actually and own

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on out we flavors. and to sorts all of there clients The talking second that from we the rolled exclusive are several would advanced the these front-to-back point as when and are strategy out earliest thing is, said we're in had CRD negotiations days there's negotiations, I that

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if will new we'd that custody, result expect new see is of accounting it new nature that. be CRD comes to fruition the that as of a and to So

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Jim Mitchell

short get some Right, to still to okay. about a That's best cuts, neutral long-end neutral we on actually disclosures. just queue, to It's staying fair? the have based NII? Is and helpful. where point think it pretty pretty it I And If it? then If in pivoting you that is that Eric shock. look your on deposits. still maybe XXX Is at the way is basis

Eric Aboaf

Jim it's Eric.

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some gives that you anyway, hopefully So color.

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Jim Mitchell

Thanks. fair. That's

Operator

question of next the with comes Brian line Bank. Deutsche Bedell Our from

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Brian Bedell

of Thanks have are questions very answered. much. I my question one the A just lot two-part side. on cost

basis, half. first but and that for XXXX see the slide the appendix. versus then X.XX on for have in if slide looking on XXXX versus at at XQ looking Just XX basis XXXX, XQ your and the XXXX X.XX on the and half underlying I guidance the XX that to second the increase imply I would a XXXX cost add up basis an and same X%

wanted right if just am doing there? I apples-to-apples the I So verify to

lower in we we as into shouldn't is XXXX? in the -- And XXXX, as question a Ron, be the versus of through a with lower part coming expense second into the be we a we should at of especially you move XXXX ideas then And basis some XQ about cost on saves, endpoint? trajectory at talked year-over-year the get reengineering looking

Eric Aboaf

start. me let Brian,

went just a cover on think the probably specifics I you through, as we hopefully just follow-up. that that

our revenue and the clear do given Ron be our quarterly you a described, the as commitments basis. be to that'll will year, think find next ex-notable little we And a widen or lumpy can do I improve and third need planning for I I the expenses environment, was trending case to think I down well-controlled. early quite expect us to and expenses quarter on have margin to that that think and our that be either like ROE. double ways given we and for items flat down and it's expenses to but on -- given intentions

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whatever offset to headwinds need merit natural also and of so the forth. We

think there's operating to expenses how use. do do industry but it's So in that. how be lots that benefits which and and you to year to going -- you're we that is a advantage that, same the I need we're in after the year, because the an of we you do take That's intimating, mode certainly mind which tackle do year after got that

Brian Bedell

you. I'll Okay. offline follow-up Thank detail. you. Great. Thank on the

Operator

Mosby Our with next of the line question Marty Vining Sparks. comes from

line Your is now open.

Marty Mosby

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Eric Aboaf

it's Eric. Marty

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Marty Mosby

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Eric Aboaf

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Marty Mosby

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Eric Aboaf

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Marty Mosby

there's the the the I reason relationships new that seasonal no you're onboarding not activities? to different of it or to anything guess or within realm or is it's recognition are happening going how just that's actual be things revenue And that

Eric Aboaf

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Marty Mosby

have valuations, for those really Thanks. activities, a market accelerated, picture the all work more become bigger other you're you much are decade increasing lastly, the you are that crystal-clear. your When customer, started started so that price that customers to to And valuations earlier getting which words, the over last are really or gone question. market under mentioned to In pressure up much sense pricing pressure. and that not doing make as it

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XX% price – I kind think as you mentioned a just kind of the increase a – the example. just

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Eric Aboaf

Eric. Yeah. Marty, it's

and and – our absolutely – mix is a on work a activity structures result this evolved pricing there do. broader has either directly I transactions this represents we've in that kind the spot clients all you're we of flows of which how fee – we're client You're and as sure describing broader And industry. got with in the think to make having

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Marty Mosby

Thanks.

Operator

Rob next Autonomous with comes Wildhack from of Our Research. question line the

now Your open. line is

Rob Wildhack

guys. morning, Good

from me. Just one

And shift accelerating you some was shift. think wondering how that's towards in get discernable that hoping products. going do trend velocity decelerating way? the again – the fee to on Looking that at forward? color a the been you management that Is velocity mentioned the any then lower line I fee of or about

Ron O’Hanley

Yeah. Rob, Ron. is this

that I effort some think manage return to something trying here. on we're that, and it's having we're certainly

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market that outflows gains flows, driven big if quarter. some offset we institutional cost at continued example by it a share like was But So for of as – the the you at look ETF had I really top spy. products describe Europe level, in in would a low so-so by in and

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Rob Wildhack

Thanks, Ron, really helpful.

Operator

with [Operator from Gerard Cassidy RBC. Instructions] Our next question comes

now is line open. Your

Gerard Cassidy

the your much your their under, York this morning. not banks source diversified in that competitive us and to just Thank ago, New this stepping the of for pricing. But focus up amongst has the with competitors are five seems of pricing that of that you many competing intensity Good of is an and got the customers led in I'm you pressure your about your may you. you in Can mentioned especially competitive interested share peers. some today. be which and banks; to area puts competition the the about to Ron, insights custody forces it challenges but was because the on business, be be as they've years dynamics seem revenue

Ron O’Hanley

Gerard. Yes,

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are us competitors was space, for it why you differentiate they asset-servicing but are important good, long in the survive that's this our means Our good. it To to offering. that

Gerard Cassidy

it's And there operations? improving now successful of your the even a expense good. of programs, years integration number at your right have is of State technology, how some ongoing technology for savings Street. as anyway obviously, can that competitors and State Very a talked we, measure follow-up, outsiders, day-to-day into an underway Is as about Street

day-to-day Or I in focused robots it's and mundane don't the to can the the you us show is metric, actions and you create know, taken evolution a success more percentage versus humans of becoming if the by on by technology, technology could achieve operations?

Ron O’Hanley

the is, Yes. are through lot of we I that or straight percentage without something processes mean, my we because to we focus that end that any complex handoff. that The are straight just it's go certainly that of that these are truly some on kind to a from far-flung. human intervention manual of mind kind think through, beginning about, operations two come large

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you time. We've got tens should and of it. And to We've thousands, the got actually installed, done on a so, the robots. we've where of now of done not, disclose from we've that’s which thought a or preparation robots install if externally, us of lot we've to hundreds an good see area work but the to would expect -- I thousands that even about. those fullness of we question us it's think installed in what And for about don't about know -- talked should about think we

Eric Walter

a suite near need, And, through XXX. equity if of just Derivative is much on Gerard, if you think complex. the about metrics there's metrics, on basically I might straight add trades, more that a processing the we that

as had this has And so growth -- industry of explosive volumes, part in right? what

manage at We of right right metrics. a what an don't what to because forefront we've always communicate you. and the metrics, us need the shift, of all of And are that's done we suite to better the I be think always as let's can And industry. those that way are better

suite about think metrics. the right we'll So of

that is this that us the we've do year. in -- I total meets that cost. seen for substitute you've the can at done the And there's matters day year say no year, that amount the is, really And then get down other I'd because of that metric end of our metric think road. previous after cost the rubber consistently that we years, where but don't it's

Gerard Cassidy

you cost if you dividends… on a that with metrics we to from three doing show just others forward you differentiate up two go could yourselves then is you're suite and progress real out just as said. to the show last years certainly expenses But Certainly and the does come will point the you you or investing paying over as of as

Eric Aboaf

Yeah.

Gerard Cassidy

you very thank much. …but

Eric Aboaf

you. Thank

Operator

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Brian Kleinhanzl

fee-rate Great. and or it going in from ETFs to there expecting you management flows zero-fee an is lot out Thanks. going on there fees. their and Are Quick how movement about and you thinking that I mean, know that. the forward question pressure I business, of is here the in but of are accelerate all the decelerate?

Ron O’Hanley

the to application see funds And this and funds level mostly I a ETF I At fee, zero-fee about lot at Brian. an attention point. mutual It's these of area that think widespread been certainly there's we're a is of mean, mutual been a don't we concerned limit. it's not some zero zero paid

being larger you those by funds the are is controlled employed, a They're mutual a how distribution offering. sponsor. look at when being of part the So typically

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alternatives think you've has somewhat little been, other at like pressure it's the and on end the about ironic that. what that the seen been you of relatively on products. pressure pressure market If has the And the things lowest-fee

paid I start to think attention you'll see there. more

Brian Kleinhanzl

just you you're looking the down continue operating Eric, did pressure of leverage? in you light expense wanted then to you're And positive revenue bring Clear. facing. that have that under Does XXXX out to mention environment XXXX? the need And for you to be mean Thanks. versus to the lower given that to revenues in expenses

Eric Aboaf

Eric. to about begin it's too We're halfway this It's to think Yeah, only you year. early XXXX. through

where fee need we got servicing I think some navigate rest of in we've indications some the our the revenues and going be are year. through of third to of quarter, to

may the where management made industry high really Ron It's that I team and always rates -- the that think I is I'll not that single-digit you and and is this think an growth stand productivity revenue I got statement behind, industry partial given if you ever. if of I to that That programs, an as matters. and for that the side calibrated, we broader is where program year. expense have have expense need have needs but the offsets an important the to this of expense program question some to where as is twice every we that industry to expense need but need -- one reinvestments, those be

in that a to as And if continue get revenue, to to margin same ROE. expenses time. want that. is we And to at in So do we'll down grow back the to -- revenues get place best expansion the to and drive of way do get lifts we we

Operator

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Ron O’Hanley

much. conversations forward Well, thank for you. with further Thanks wanted having I we joining to just look to you all very and us,

Operator

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