AMBAC Financial (AMBC)

Lisa Kampf IR
Claude LeBlanc President and CEO
David Trick EVP and CFO
Andrew Gadlin Odeon Capital Group
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Greetings, and welcome to the Ambac Financial Group, Incorporated Third Quarter 2018 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your hosts, Ms. Investor Chief LeBlanc, Financial of and Executive Head Trick, David Officer. Kampf, Relations; Chief Claude Officer; Lisa I will now turn the call over to Lisa.

Lisa Kampf

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Claude LeBlanc

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$XX.X Our active billion. our activities date total helped to de-risking exposure billion, reduce to par approximately by insured have $XX.X

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of increased first Activity since unemployment by Rico X.X%, September Economic almost lowest As Rico the when Rico increase Index began unemployment September's Puerto collecting years of rate, the XXXX, figures. Puerto growth. unemployment after year-over-year was XXXX, Puerto negative the six rate first in of X.X%,

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fiscal or how all in the positive will long-term what However, plan over it's impact the is extent unclear commonwealth's to reflected recoveries. this economic bondholder momentum the

contentious part case and III XXXX. under commonwealth plan settlement as Looking around of board beyond issuance, stakeholders consensually COFINA Puerto statement approve debt to filed during of the on oversight of The motion COFINA COFINA most important the the The came in the of case Title and third Rico's effects stimulative disclosure October the oversight the XXth. rule filed recovery to and sales bankruptcy use adjustment securitization. commonwealth resolve commonwealth quarter also restructure the activity, tax dispute the III litigation Title together a board COFINA

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on the motions one several appealed, court XX, any of currently timing until are cannot the trial It decisions appeal appellate such We the scheduled judge for to decided. postpone be on the XXXX, but expect court or likely the predict months will the the very may rule Depending February more for to longer court take issue, end or the could on or appellate year issues appeal. of the it the and decide on the on rulings. before that is issues trial,

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can options XXXX. to as growth, various relates asset leverage remain We particularly of service businesses as in we business and which committed potential types achieved different evaluate in opportunities to our other for given core Ambac Finally, to transactions insurance, financial actively business, it and long-term to in we synergistic for credit, opportunities sectors We've new are that milestones competencies. transactions exploring magnitudes. management, of the continue strategic evaluating various select been

will the to results financial the like for support priorities. pursue capital stated long-term value. would we As we We be previously, of goal in measured now approach our advance for we turn strategic disciplined our call quarter. to sustainable will the we over and as I discuss thank opportunities creating David shareholder deploy the continued to as our you have your with to David?

David Trick

an XX% and exchange net $X and net in in the of share. third you, shareholders earnings per million. equity consolidated XXXX. million a warrants. AMPS deleveraging capital structure transaction, value balance the liquidation morning. AMPS a of Including million common loss diluted The of repurchased the million the adjusted the from approximately liquidation share, XX, reduction XXX of [ph] issuance million diluted in simplifying was exchange balance the quarter $X preference, $X.XX in $X.XX of impact the $X.XX the to million our outstanding to attributable Ambac stockholders per million reported only their million $XX.XX quarter reduction at of fair stockholders' at million crude of of the common objective to the value preference $XX liquidation share second and of decline on compare preference the incurred our sheet $X.XX for $X.XX also an third of This their adjusted transaction and million or million of a approximately were equating the a emerged as Thank quarter liquidation share good value of AMPS $XXX $XXX interest, AMPS and per the quarter. diluted accomplished share, September on or stockholders the discount Ambac of or adjusted the income $XXX to the million $XX share to of share, $XX million from $X.XX approximately realization package AMPS Claude, net transaction. of time of respectively a per during $XX.XX economically per our XX% of sheet. to second of approximately by AMPS These of decreased compared of to of compared result incurred of in warrant excluding the through $X.XX the the value carried of consideration book fair bankruptcy. $XXX was adjusted at $XX income $XX.X of of to cash, $XX.X equity stockholders. resulted million, or impact surplus attributable loss Ambac in fair diluted notes and common Ambac loss loss value resulting preference, The transaction results the $XX paid the led capture share per the of book net transaction per The the The XXXX. over diluted progressed The or with Coupled payment per basis issuance a issuance attributable to XXXX. and a adjusted million, to $X decline including loss to to of of the

insured the second and trading. our third size on portfolio yielding Net second of RMBS million in Losses to million our relative negative allocation were gains efforts incurred incurred million The in quarter the of primarily remediation of $XX the rate these for both third $XX positive the of reflected higher the lower for rebalance were quarter lesser higher investment the to when reduction accounts during assets exit Ambac as classified compared to were in decline reflect of of expenses portfolios for investment from with loss transaction, portfolio with and the quarter coupled lower and rising the of gains in totaled to In the repayment Ambac be sales the quarter quarter loss $XX net $XX hedge. gains the operating liquid results the the connection to $XX Note macro was $X redemptions Investment connection second of expenses the of offset efforts produced income XXXX continued insured third the subsequent a $XX borrowing Note. driven and the the quarter the quarter for quarter offset quarter. second the million gains impact RMBS gains gains contributed compared the a $XXX interest of by a which securities. on Ambac during and of third our million XXXX. $XX to-date addition by of Ever rehabilitation to developments. loss invested These of second rates and interest payment and expenses more to million $XX to quarter incurred realized degree to from the investment the mitigated income compared partially partially the with positions. lower derivative third offset decline realized to hedge for loss expenses macro by third decline or investment the million, assets the with to to and credit Losses as $X of gains sale quarter. executed principal higher Ambac million sources insured in the reallocation were in quarter. This our second The million of by investment of from interest by million and segregated reduction connection XX% partly AMPS partially income of the impact million of the secured million. a of An quarter $XXX XXXX investment during

AMPS $XX.X regulatory inclusive million, related by sizing. slight connection to $XX of with associated $X.X further we with oversight expense quarter increase our strategic with severance normal expenses from $XX increase second third quarter various third expenses to XXXX. of of quarter notes associated operations right in relating and the exchange expect lower million was for experience representation quarter third RMBS the litigation objectives, reducing for downs second $X $X.X by formal partially in an Interest million second remarks. on We remain quarter Note of resulting from Claude the full transaction my the the or of of from stated the million I related operating various That to transaction exchange the Total brief the higher reflected compensation mostly of million. AMPS in to remarks. amounted pay redemption for or the $XX partially were closing the consistent Ambac to now warranty XX% professional to secured expenses quarter million the by principal contain net offset The cost AMPS fees expenses operating the with concludes due lower Interest backed accounted will the core cost million which in interest to the some quarter XXXX and for quarter similar cost Third to cost quarters in of volatility cost third to back higher transaction XXXX of initiatives expense. expense million other increased but issuance quarter. $X on of and borrowing XXXX our debt call increase surplus to of turn And of X% events. operating XXXX. interest focused second from This lower offset the

Claude LeBlanc

David. Thanks,

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comes a Group. Capital of question-and-answer first Andrew Gadlin line session. [Operator from conducting question be Odeon the now We will of Our Instructions]

Andrew Gadlin

events I two that events you as are via in settlement small from included morning. November well the wondering those QX as discuss Goldman could financial deal, subsequent was if Sachs reinsurance the Good the disclosed impact the Hey, numbers? in

David Trick

calling Sachs we was Goldman part suit filed settlement The action thanks of Andrew, for Hey, in. that a claim a class in.

pension back we by, result two it, come received of expecting about and a we that made transaction? in in was result November time million to And material launched fourth hard who little related a I of claim it never that will second and of as think, As to was in that, -- your be reinsurance funds really a of quarter. XXXX, $XX the settlement I a question, had part the booked hearing anything the

Andrew Gadlin

Yes. Correct.

David Trick

transaction financial not in the fourth that impact The quarter will of a quarter, the reflected from be was reinsurance the in too statement 'XX, quarter begin closed result booked and third that fourth sorry. to starting

Andrew Gadlin

meaningful the impact And deal? from be will reinsurance the

David Trick

adjusted The be biggest impact have we from will would the calculated meaningful a of fourth have book on value. amount you'll that value adjusted reinsurance that included UPR impact quarter, in on and will the is book see impact an probably how

Andrew Gadlin

an And you can magnitude give order will impact us what be? the of

David Trick

a than share. Less $X.XX

Andrew Gadlin

Got it.

Okay. commutation Claude, and you COFINA could to months of that terms COFINA of after the And explanation launching, effort was elements that alongside something process. I completion hopefully couple is that certificate happen, approved? settlement thank that in wondering comments could expected you and that of if there, then, guys is of the a be will the about be would go talk your for you COFINA your or

Claude LeBlanc

following say confirmation be actions of commutation complex the our detail to the and relating detail the guess, on the made any that are adjustment. that through transaction, point of consider this in or do we've plan, I their we is to At anything Again, a lot might date. obviously, think done it's is would vis-à-vis relating likely a working I not would securities. decisions what very I public still with So we're of -- plan we OB

Andrew Gadlin

litigation against alongside And pursued then York, confirmation, Bank that. does have would this that you unique plan also or we should be have that wait of New think for that angle how about of kind to

Claude LeBlanc

the New that… is litigation of to plant, relating to referring Bank you're York So, the

Andrew Gadlin

we to been related when can see on that Yes, to start that COFINA know I there. Is non-acceleration. staid? -- movement their that's

Claude LeBlanc

not any have at think vis-à-vis made stage we litigation. determinations this I So

again and we confirmation think it's -- I with we'll -- allow like make evaluate we'll to through something something still that we're evaluating before any the date the decisions.

Andrew Gadlin

thank thanks. That's it, right. from me, you. it All Got


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