Broadmark Realty Capital (BRMK)

Jeff Pyatt Chief Executive Officer
Nevin Boparai Chief Legal Officer
David Schneider Chief Financial Officer
Tim Hayes BTIG
Steve Delaney JMP Securities
Stephen Laws Raymond James
Matthew Howlett B. Riley
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Greetings, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Broadmark Realty Capital Third Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions]. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Mr. Boparai. Nevin sir. you, Thank

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Nevin Boparai

afternoon. Thank Realty today Broadmark joining you Third Quarter for Capital's Call. us XXXX for Good Earnings Conference

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Jeff Pyatt

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generating very markets. COVID. have real estate our locations To quarter record continuing focused new progress with origination's, we into remained during resilient that expansion excited on and our are and conclude, third are uses We

to for excellent tools With we the platform continue leading have highly further and loans. choice to upon balance of pace represents of to place this activity to repeat best-in-class as drive experienced to an We be have opportunities customers continue all borrowers scale of lender value. construction additional team, sheet, every revenue the our new we our record build future in shareholder

the we Lastly, and performance. of included to have metrics also in as David. provide our organization disclosures, These our our financials. X To that, that slides expand core the at efforts some ESG cover are on slides new part of enhance to over our earnings turn I the it presentation. will Broadmark's ESG With principles ongoing and review

David Schneider

Thanks, Jeff everyone. good and afternoon,

X detailed our are operating presentation. earnings Our results of Slide on

For quarter a the per-share diluted net basis, $X.XX million. reflects impact XXXX, third items. reported of of non-cash common $XX.X income of of On share, income million and this net the per costs we GAAP for a adjusting $XX.X and non-recurring total revenue of other approximately

quarter on million. Our income distributable common was $X.XX income share. the quarter fee third diluted realize on were the million prior in to and investments third was $X.X for loans Interest million $XX.X per our $XX.X earnings or loss

On support our continue to headcount side, to as growth we efforts with expense balance expansion mentioned. the modest our G&A Jeff reduction

We For remain our of decrease had in expense for $XX.X the year-to-date. we with G&A million and XXXX, cash XXXX. from third quarter, compensation of expected and expense line with of $XX million $X expense an of G&A million compensation million estimated previously cash $X.X $X.X million

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facility. we Second, our use our credit made of first revolving in October,

levels the facility With new Subsequent to during on while paid would historically, October as cash September balance We in several to we advantage down our drew in credit facility million of receipt our opportunities $XX demonstrates cash quarter-end, timing by tap XXst of gave the the million the our have awaited credit $XX loan value borrower the This in loan the been we to we and maintaining tool. large It line then off the flexibility Whereas the draws full take the support management the place, needing to without by had quarter. repayments. the payouts, payoffs. facility originations to in of pipeline operating while ability bring to we constrained us of liquidity. following loan a

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the turn comments. will I back closing Now, for Jeff call a to few

Jeff Pyatt

Thank you, David.

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Tim Hayes

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on cash of the quite management be see just proven using than of down have line. So I to you for has at holdbacks. a end the you're line. XX% million And quarter, come bit cash know nice fruitful you touch cash tool to credit at but start when $XX of certainly -- you, nice guys that construction capacity the has Can the less on you

about fourth and options of the you talked capital in the You some the markets in the to ATM. quarter

see idea quarters. considering so just position right maybe how of Just an the evolve of any idea over give trending corporate you coming us are Maybe liquidity sheet have an going, we should the coming you what quarters? other over type leverage options or is the balance of how now, where debt

Jeff Pyatt

for thanks And and question. take joining Sure. Tim

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able on cash So was back strategically come to intent us draw behind being for when a from in, us the line, it a such focus the pay perspective. was the payoffs management achieving and exactly it why

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the on. -- about As we're we Eric as mentioned quarter, raising think the capital, fourth marks we in in focused

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David Schneider

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Tim Hayes

sense. makes to That I Clearly but have of you ask a the the asset in the which I ratio appreciate loan I evolving to mean, wanted there, side David. balance sheet is comments new types mind? some about. target do leverage

I follow-up a thoughts any levels. helps mean, I right? on accretive know target, would and it's leverage leverage your you moving could as just it's where of kind a then to you and So to trade ATM, but you so premium issue value, preliminary equity just book the stock be to wanted manage see -- that just migrate a at

think using line. that curious and tandem how about issuance in Just you corporate type credit with debt the some of

David Schneider

Tim. a Sure. question, Yeah. pretty That's

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around looking Let's million XX%, XX% debt-to-equity ratio. somewhere of at next say We're still we year. do $XXX

So evolve. will over I time, think that

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have still peers. So I a from a think leverage will advantage from our years low relative now to competitive we

Tim Hayes

the Yes, then that's bridging me of great. be to But and loans hop new you think rehab And on quarter, that for in types queue. the one more and originated just this I that saw just us When the give just type I'll of X flip, some the here. categories you're in of say fixed ready -- we collateral and working other supplement. types is you any with rehab, examples back maybe

So loan these what we are. get types feel for a new

David Schneider

Sure. Yes.

think It origination. really was a refining. new just QX I wasn't that us necessarily

the That really I Maybe construction some bridge we've done the a is, argue certificate like no definition that what available. of and occupancy a bridge loans look but in loan loan think past. we there's can of more over is risk.

lower to begin that. coupon a and get fee You on like can something

of in there is I'd lot that, QX, like bit looks little but past. a the it seen for So what say a we've

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Tim Hayes

the appreciate it. Got David, thanks Well, for all I it. color,

David Schneider

Thanks, Tim.


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comes question with with Securities. next Please the JMP proceed line from Our questions. your of Delaney Steve

Steve Delaney

Thank Jeff be good you. and you. Hello, David with on to

Jeff Pyatt

you. Steve Thanks, Thank

Steve Delaney

First thing -- thanks, Jeff.

thing is realized a penny year about I ask and your would took losses $X.XX. you to that first like this down The had that to gap

fair Was the So owned, on real And that's addition write-downs came that realized that foreclosure. loss where $XX million I value had primarily $XXX,XXX. to a estate that you is particular guess from?

Jeff Pyatt

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that able specific and loans housing don't it. like to like large obviously small off that any that overall redeploy we one was in of Seattle during pre the portfolio, in third have. see from good fees. loss the to resolve of on able and a new to payoff were generating into even the been books, default interest capital more we don't but get But quarter are single-family took it to type the of those while, that we that so to We defaults a of value the that were We So always layout area and -COVID. to has from those for learn the

Steve Delaney

had I get forgive $XX if of the didn't was amount, that So but nice million heavy one or a me resolution exact resolutions. you've the

at think had did out Some there but was got of you this them or write-off you close so take a -- to a suggested case, deficiency, whole, in whole [Indiscernible] you you I little the one

David Schneider

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generally think I a win for that's us.

Steve Delaney

to not quarter. record with forward, quarter, then going live can That's And Jeff, win. you're looking every have that. that You a

XXXX mean, XXXX, of For would David or I hires, I be as to when of have But COVID around out sure intentionally maybe is in but a new -- this for approaching, pre I states, couple you Is want the - billion new don't you've right in set range number numbers, and you -- out something XXXX to winter a but dollars to don't, and I enough you me of said, got anything, X got near more guidance states, but if front months or phrase, so X some a forgive that it's look and me, terms and that realistic -- least nowhere year. realistically, a the be originations. that might like that full-year. your expectations XXXX. what at for of Is a that or figure in be were goals a vague

Jeff Pyatt

close Steve. guidance, perilously get might to one that so, giving And

Steve Delaney

it. I to right. All paint was Okay. trying

Jeff Pyatt

with go this. let's So,

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Steve Delaney

David, very elegant. got I'm echo one clear. comment was And it. Tim's That then comment. to And Thanks. I just

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debt. that I be on X and just I corporate time, think the those your Thanks, base this appreciate unsecured think I would bankers whatever, pick your given -- an you years, at and to complement X coupons securities. to board comments. your capital ideal

David Schneider

Thanks, Steve.


Thank you.

question with next question. Laws from with the James, of proceed line Raymond Our Stephen please comes your

Stephen Laws

from will Hi. To mix as mentioned, follow both or Good you you you guys the and products, afternoon, do and XX didn't months the Tim's you expanded how know so? change I and question, much rehab hope, next percentage as the but do offer answer, go the well. portfolio you up of sheets X it over bridge an rehab. doing pricing bridge are continue to the of David, to on a think big how see becoming other X%, the

David Schneider

for Thanks question. Great joining Stephen.

think I a we'll not spots. focus. certainly It's pick our

when currently said are I think talked And talked construction want, a quarter privately, you our we at? probably our to little well, bit the about we do before or we're we quarter borrowers offering. at last the with looking products that not going and looking we're to what are you what complimentary guys loans

that bridge list. of probably So of is them. the a lot see is We loan definitely top do

We effort a on of loan. bridge kind haven't put doing focused

alone it pretty small often will not term. they longer to but makes primarily But our think it XX% near-term. I the like happen. all loan, I a just in sense criteria, does percentage Sometimes LTV, remain the looks which maybe that think But of bridge fits

add the our than I, construction products that portfolio we us in for product, make we beyond loans Jeff I additional that will will add. borrowers having more both to right? sense think imagine segments that there's said I portfolio complementary X think and are to have that our that and other want ultimately

that that's potential, opportunities something growth So think in be bring that as we same set, borrowers. as I when well continue there the talk will to new borrower to different for about products offering

Stephen Laws

David. I (ph). appreciate comments, [Indiscernible] those

and On there kind to and let's kind to you've forward? like are active the states then on ago, states new say, guess of expansion you two-part looked other there states, look less decide as that moved what I now be and Conversely, you've that other you of and you you'd those? geographic into that -- identified going there it at you're not years Are two you that question. are active be two yet, are back want more are

David Schneider

and Jeff expense take It the jump seems so. will Yes. the that comments. let I into additional I'll of

think Maybe being when state we're we're very attractive maybe opportunity. a has but come the mindful list. and that focused strategic really you states, on actually lower and that opportunities I we was up enter also

Credit perspective, There's long I we've So list it's of Officer both our looking still been done constantly at pretty states lender-friendly analysis focused think a from Chief has evolving quarter-over-quarter. a states. significant legal of that on

Our preference non-judicial is always going foreclosures. to be

non-judicial from traditional there's a timeline like a foreclosures perspective. looks Sometimes, lot it foreclosure ultimately but

we're business we in as So But rates. open-minded ultimately have the that to that that migration business focused we're multiple on sometimes do in, well, borrowers in states.

with us us. borrowers into existing continue and expand want doing will business state are come looking to to So to and new a

as X This and great There Nevada been Minnesota. mind a that we've we'll more complicated on quarter, was Midwest two a we Arizona perspective, is a the much obviously -- and lending had a I example. were have Whereas and done there's our slightly Arizona that that Minnesota, at states the pick Arizona, but we Nevada, lot for and in entered we licensing we opportunities are entered, have a historically a and we in additional the states, there's something while. of there. gap X those are that that not this lending for from eyes think that's X while. or So looking

they So do then new loan. become states to borrowers piece opportunistic investments markets. the get and portfolio made great repeat our of then just I enter that was think a to We near-term, great any of these to will large market just not these borrowers, start ultimately And takes it from to We relationships. word portion sense mouth one We that a a an borrower. of us some time. find that collateral, And local in become deal you're the We new Minnesota going new of experts. a came travel. it see in develop

expect beyond probably be X states right to of expansion. that to I to would significantly in a there there the loans XX say I build say longer-term, out will significantly to But time year I of Columbia. of don't be each in it think as District is grow think to a So handful would expansion would Stephen, I more And I grow now, new we're now I from on in you'll start at states at. more look portfolio, see and will for to the states. us a more relationships. But X loans than But more think states Nevada We're Arizona, to be always continuing right to to stepping just -- going this or focus. take focus XXXX, are each state those continuing going make look states. to to look those we I and that sense here. be states Minnesota, the continue those, think states.

Stephen Laws

compensation of from little the this to about up slightly a question Last we we run talked was identified or about you've move think going couple I the that bit think adding to on headcount Great. quarter bit know me, ads, where sequentially. tied from rate markets. should the but little the ahead? third headcount plan you right a forward increasing that more as Is additions about especially

David Schneider


So it's difficult. always bit little a

compensation. like I we always did the in So focus remarks to around as prepared cash

you So, assets. since RSU amortization on have expense once tangible out, you back the

at between G&A. of total about ended and expense -- we call between million think I up what cash compensation So I'll cash X.X

puts the that year around us For $XX just million.

compensation. million So with and still of target cash of of kind that $XX in line

to just just I somewhere target different significant. QX nothing probably and and going numbers in and XXXX. headcount in the either similar kind That's beyond, we'll make cash probably XXXX than there think think XXXX or but terms be $XX looks look to in slight of come might significantly expense there of -- will million that between be X.X I above slightly that QX, will probably So X be increases, will

our I of platform headcount the beauty state think expansion. some in is for its scalability. sales added We

we're sales any think headcount not new expecting for XXXX. I

hoping that. on cash be not to impact for with think We'll the a there our are can total so which think a have compensation you number, bit cash I little back-office marginal functions of I operations going. running Would as that we it expense long we're call number that $XX to continue can. $XX probably near-term of keep at million as and might

Stephen Laws

Great. Appreciate [Indiscernible]


you. Thank

Matthew Our of B. next question with your line the proceed Please comes Howlett from question. with Riley.

Matthew Howlett

Hi, you David question. and Thank for taking my Jeff.

was up million, for earnings comments $XX $X.XX that recognized Just drag. the issue, of at penny quarter. back pickup in a just with bigger just quarter I curious the the look over could the the portfolio. portfolio, a growth would've were in with I When in timing on case the just The just issue. would thought there there's an we're growth sequentially been a given closings the you it a have reconciliation But in the if

David Schneider

question Yes. and Sure. Matt. Great for joining, thanks

from was for perspective think heavily was I September, September. in So million $XXX towards a of production out the a our quarter, total $XXX it weighted about million

close that. quarter-end. income happen. fees you the quarter, interest So We on a probably deals throughout and to tend tends bit from to towards It on lost they little that worked

numbers. $X.XX and well continued in I off be your reflected originations think felt million probably nice the got as for. off default hoping QX up numbers hoping elevated I we as or the So -- $XX in then we comments in $XX quarter a we we potentially these the that -- on in QX so that remarks million point, driver a October in We're pick full non-accrual, just that's won't that origination we're on resolutions that prepared happened about QX, X.X the lot to a to saw think based talked the what is and around QX paid fully

of, of quarter the a that off the had quarter about still non-accrual weighted a towards $XX end from full $X.XX call it took let's post-quarter-end. drag million We So, non-accrual, the

in So will hopefully a lead earnings pickup that nice of to QX.

Matthew Howlett

Got it. Great.

Do like So to you profile leverage. modeling I to just tell just in when Company? guidance with old the security, And help introduction here, the it platform get a about of the it think the place do to the mean, the ROEs you the the of issue. Broadmark. yield capital the just new what got think timing debt, you the you versus mean, the look be it's looks with will with increase? expect then us ROE us out a higher covered structure -- and I dividend can generally you

what you the rotate structure? trends or begin how to ROE talked you think Just about do about do curious, as we our trajectory, tell you the with s investors capital

David Schneider

Yeah. Absolutely. Matt. Great question,

weighted We over expect. will in definitely a expect time. answer So capital significant It's to down, cost will next over we yes, -- we slowly. Again, but of sprint, average not think so we a be is it X comes increase X short yes, weighted we a marathon, capital as the which years, ROE cost down. average think of come

and we've future, as The well will Steve issues. seasonality grown growth dollars achievable I think something the as in billion-dollars. I the third and be years that Obviously mentioned is we've remarks, is we we billion as guidance, QX, Our to some did this we'll grown had not targeting that be -- then bit give continue Again, XX% year origination quarter to perspective. so little should our are -- think replicated. volumes but which numbers the expect there's it of year-to-date, to QX is what about in definitely types the grow is definitely think We going I increase. that a the we're mentioned XX%. in can in targeting from more prepared portfolio those something in upcoming something

continuing of capital, average to to default the lower continue resolution. asset growth the increase on any be cost yields, of impact to So focused offset weighted lowering

I'd think going time. to in not to I to going like be going relatively on little really would a I up good but lead equity year over increase a are to bit, every we're we're of It's think like then things believe pick near-term. place all overnight, to and those the to what in return to happen significant going

Matthew Howlett

Thanks a lot, David.

David Schneider

Matt. Thanks,


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